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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 4:13:56)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

What has happened to toros? Cultura de Andalucía? This forum always reverts to the minor parts of guitar making. So why is it not the flamenco forum that it claims to be?


I'll take the bait. It's because essentially (but perhaps not absolutely entirely) all of the members are not flamencos.

Almost all are cultural turistas like me. No matter how many times I have visited Andalucian culture over more than 65 years, I am still a tourist.

RNJ

Sorry guys, we just polished off a good bottle of Brunello di Montalcino, and went to look at the Christmas lights in Saint Augustine, so as Tiny Tim said, "Merry Christmas, and God bless us every one!",




Ruphus -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 6:37:24)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

... and Ruohus runs around with criquet bat shoved so far up his poop shute that can't see daylight.


LOL!

Inspect this example.
You once felt provoked by my enthusiasm for a pretty material and oldest usable wood that I would had loved to see in a nylon / flamenco guitar. So you thought to finally have found a chance to prove that I am a fool who thought that eucalyptus could be used for a guitar.

You were then corrected by several of your colleagues, still remained sulky like before. So rejecting against defeat and void of noting balance that you even felt the embarrassment could serve you as clue again years later.
Obviously a lack of track and a perceptual handicap.

In terms of foro brawlings your points total which (to my overview, even though I know to have not read all of yours) appears to amount around zero of congruently aligned and convincing arguments.

My suggestion is to -howsoever emotionally intrigued- not blindly storm positions but check matters out first by asking or using search engines.

Karri holidays!
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Piwin, greetings to your folks, and tell them that they have an accomplice here. [;)]




Piwin -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 7:03:40)

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Piwin, greetings to your folks, and tell them that they have an accomplice here.


Thanks, but honestly, given what you've said before about religion, I doubt you would want to be their accomplice, of all people! After a dinner with them you'd probably end up with me and the koala under the rain not giving a f$ck!
[:D]




Ruphus -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 7:10:43)

[:D][:D]

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Morante -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 10:37:30)

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BTW I liked the video you sent up with the Velasquez guys El Bombero. I wish the video would have shown more bulls chasing them.

I was only able to look at it with the sound off so I did not put together the entire story. Who is the guy who first began it, and us it a send up if the Guardia Civil?


This is from an article in Aplausos, a taurine publication:

El Bombero Torero es el genial invento de Pablo Celis Cuevas, un tramoyista de teatro amante del toreo que soñó con ser torero y luchó hasta conseguir hacerse un hueco en las ferias y plazas de multitud de países. Al final lo logró a través del toreo bufo. “Mi abuelo era un gran aficionado que quería ser torero, y estando en el teatro pensó en un personaje que pudiera gustar en los espectáculos cómicos de la época. La idea se le ocurrió trabajando en el teatro, en el que siempre había un bombero de guardia. Este hombre tenía un gran bigote y era muy peculiar y simpático. Mi abuelo se fijó en él para crear el espectáculo”, recuerda su nieto Rafa.
Eso era el año 1928, pero no fue hasta 1953 cuando crea se propio espectáculo El Bombero Torero y los enanitos toreros. “Hasta ese año había actuado dentro de otras compañías de toreo bufo, pero en 1953, viendo el gran éxito que tenía, es cuando decide crear su propio espectáculo”, apunta Rafa. La inclusión de los enanitos fue la gran novedad del momento: “La primera actuación mi abuelo nos contó que fue un auténtico desastre. Aunque sean becerras, hay que tener en cuenta que para la estatura de los enanitos son animales muy grandes”, señala el nieto del primer Bombero Torero. Pero rápidamente, las cosas comenzaron a rodar.





estebanana -> RE: Toros (Dec. 25 2017 10:40:38)

Happy birthday Richard, I hope your frivolity went well!




BarkellWH -> RE: Toros (Dec. 27 2017 20:23:01)

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What has happened to toros? Cultura de Andalucía? This forum always reverts to the minor parts of guitar making. So why is it not the flamenco forum that it claims to be?


Discussing the building of a guitar--tone woods, scale, bracing, etc.--is no less an element of flamenco than discussing toros and the cultura de Andalucia. All are elements of the flamenco mosaic, and all have at one time or another been discussed and debated on the Foro. This is indeed the flamenco forum that it claims to be.

Bill




Morante -> RE: Toros (Dec. 27 2017 20:46:42)

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Discussing the building of a guitar--tone woods, scale, bracing, etc.--is no less an element of flamenco than discussing toros and the cultura de Andalucia.


Bueno; tiene un concepto raro de flamenco. por lo menos no es uno que entiendo.




BarkellWH -> RE: Toros (Dec. 28 2017 13:17:36)

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Bueno; tiene un concepto raro de flamenco. por lo menos no es uno que entiendo.


As it has always been my understanding that this is an English language forum and it is rude to speak or write in a language (Spanish) not understood by many members, I will reply in English.

To say that discussion of the various elements that go into the building of a guitar is "un concepto raro de flamenco" (a strange or odd concept of flamenco) is strange in itself. I cannot imagine a good flamenco guitarist who would not be interested in the tone wood, scale, and other elements that go into the building of a guitar to his specifications for maximum ease and playability. Certainly it is just as important as discussing toros.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Toros (Dec. 28 2017 18:36:35)

Deleted, see OT forum.




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