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Grisha -> Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 18:00:39)

Going to start learning it today. I wonder if it will sound okay without the percussion. I have to perform it in March in a very academic setting.



rombsix -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 18:58:44)

Keep us posted (videos, please) as you make progress. [:D]



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 19:07:26)

Videos may be a bit difficult to produce as I learn it. I have to learn it quickly - my goal is to be finished by this weekend. It will be a bit complicated, as I just finished "Se alza la luna" yesterday, and that's a lot of music to remember.



JohnWalshGuitar -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 19:52:03)

Hey Grisha,
I've played parts of it before with no percussion or palmas and it sounded ok. That being said, it certainly sounds better with rather than without, in my opinion.
By the way, I can't wait to hear that Cañizares piece. One of my all time favourites!



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 20:48:01)

Thanks, John! I am sure it sounded beautiful through your hands.

Yes, that zapateado is wonderful. Extremely detailed.



rombsix -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 20:52:50)

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Videos may be a bit difficult to produce as I learn it. I have to learn it quickly - my goal is to be finished by this weekend. It will be a bit complicated, as I just finished "Se alza la luna" yesterday, and that's a lot of music to remember.


No worries, hombre. I was just teasin' ya. [:D]



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 21:34:30)

Oh, got you! The reason I posted this at all is because at least one person wanted me to learn that piece and perhaps share a slow video. It took me a few years to get to it.



rombsix -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 22:29:05)

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Oh, got you! The reason I posted this at all is because at least one person wanted me to learn that piece and perhaps share a slow video. It took me a few years to get to it.


Yeah, I was hoping we could get more of the falsetas in slow motion like the video you posted before. I was a bit surprised you said you needed to learn it because I was under the impression you already learned it when you posted that first falseta some months ago. In any case, best wishes in getting it down & nailing it at the academic setting. I'm sure it will rock, with or without percussion. Olé & happy new year! [:D]



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Dec. 31 2014 22:32:38)

Thanks, Ramzi! I learned two falsetas from it before for Arash, but never touched them since. Don't remember a note.[:D]



Dudnote -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Jan. 1 2015 5:14:16)

Just out of interest, which (if any) partition(s) are you using?



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Jan. 1 2015 16:38:06)

My right and left ears! [;)]



Mason -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Jan. 2 2015 2:14:50)

Couldn't have been a better 1000th post haha



Dudnote -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Jan. 3 2015 3:36:41)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

My right and left ears! [;)]


I feared as much. I'm thinking of trading mine in for a better pair, if you ever decide to auction yours on ebay I'll bid as high as the next guy ；-)

Enjoy Rio de la Miel - I greatly look forward to any videos that come out of this project.



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 1:14:15)

Finished. In the last 2 months I learned these:

“Villa rosa” (Minera) – Rafael Riqueni
“Tio Arango” (Soleá) – Vicente Amigo
“Se alza la luna” (Zapateado) – Juan Manuel Cañizares
“Montiño” (Fandango) – Paco de Lucía
“Río de la miel” (Bulerías) – Paco de Lucía
"Plaza alta" (Soleá) - Paco de Lucía

I have now 2 weeks to practice them for the concert.



rombsix -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 2:49:19)

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I have now 2 weeks to practice them for the concert.


Plenty of time. [8D]



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Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 18:41:09)

In Moscow, Tchaikovsky Hall. I am participating in a guitar festival.



Ricardo -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 18:48:38)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

In Moscow, Tchaikovsky Hall. I am participating in a guitar festival.


will you get to visit home in st. petersburg as well? exciting to travel man!



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 19:04:06)

No, not this time. It's too expensive!



ToddK -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 19:11:01)

I would wish you luck, but you dont need it.

These pieces are all terrific. I'm sure you will nail them all.

Cheers!
TK



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 19:16:42)

Thanks![:)]



jg7238 -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 8 2015 19:41:09)

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Finished. In the last 2 months I learned these:

“Villa rosa” (Minera) – Rafael Riqueni
“Tio Arango” (Soleá) – Vicente Amigo
“Se alza la luna” (Zapateado) – Juan Manuel Cañizares
“Montiño” (Fandango) – Paco de Lucía
“Río de la miel” (Bulerías) – Paco de Lucía
"Plaza alta" (Soleá) - Paco de Lucía


Very nice... Montiño is a tough one even with a capo on the second fret.



minorthang -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 9 2015 4:31:27)

wow , im a bit poor yet im up for the bid.

give me ya ears ill give you too left hands !!


[&:]



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 9 2015 14:44:47)

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ORIGINAL: jg7238


Very nice... Montiño is a tough one even with a capo on the second fret.


Do you play this piece, Juan? It is, indeed, impossible. That left hand pinky work is insane.



jg7238 -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 9 2015 16:36:12)

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Do you play this piece, Juan? It is, indeed, impossible. That left hand pinky work is insane.
 


That was exactly what I was referring to. The left hand pinky movement in this piece kind of put me off a bit but I was trying to play it with the capo on the first fret. Maybe I'll take another look at it with the capo on second. I'm sure you'll gobble it up though even without cejilla. [:D]



ToddK -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 9 2015 23:14:23)

Grisha, i dont know if you'll be back to this thread, i know you're busy,
but i was wondering, do you do your own transcriptions by ear, or
do you use sheets?



Aretium -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 9 2015 23:28:53)

Grisha replied to me on YT that he will be performing this in a few months.



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 10 2015 17:21:12)

Thanks, Juan.

Todd, I always use my ears. I don't read tabs, and sheet music for flamenco is kind of silly. I just purchased AmazingSlowDowner, and it's great. I used VLC player before.

Aretium, I will be performing it in exactly 2 weeks and one day.



guitarbuddha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 10 2015 18:24:19)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

Thanks, Juan.

Todd, I always use my ears. I don't read tabs, and sheet music for flamenco is kind of silly. I just purchased AmazingSlowDowner, and it's great. I used VLC player before.

Aretium, I will be performing it in exactly 2 weeks and one day.


Hi Grisha. Would you say that growing up with a very fine classical guitar teacher and sharing with him the work of transcription from a very young age helped you along in this or is it something anyone could do from scratch on their own in their 20s-40s ?

Like everyone else on this thread I am pretty certain that you will do the music, the composers, your father,everyone here and all of Russia proud in Moscow. Have a great trip.

D.



Grisha -> RE: Starting on Rio De La Miel (Mar. 10 2015 19:19:30)

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ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha



Hi Grisha. Would you say that growing up with a very fine classical guitar teacher and sharing with him the work of transcription from a very young age helped you along in this or is it something anyone could do from scratch on their own in their 20s-40s ?

Like everyone else on this thread I am pretty certain that you will do the music, the composers, your father,everyone here and all of Russia proud in Moscow. Have a great trip.

D.


Thanks for believing in me! I need a little confidence boost right now.

I think there are two things that help me do what I do. One is being a perfectionist. And another one having a lot of experience learning by ear. I started doing this when I was about 8 or 9. With my father's help my first piece, Sabicas' buleria Temas gitanos, took us about 6 months to learn. Now I can do that in a couple of hours. I think, it's just practice and attention to details. And knowing what's possible and what's likely.



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