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rombsix -> YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 10:26:21)



This is the first time I receive a copyright warning for an authentic flamenco video. And which artist is it? Quique Paredes! It's not like it's PdL or something! Is he still alive?

This is alarming in my opinion, because if flamenco videos start to get copyrighted and get targeted and deleted, we're all screwed! [:(]



I'm going to be deleting the video, so enjoy it or download it while you still can! [8D]

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mezzo -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 10:40:18)

Man, I received the exact same message when i uploaded a montse cortes video cover months ago!
The vid is still on my account and nothing happened...so c'mon don't be so fearful, no va a pasar nada!! (maybe [;)])




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 10:51:58)

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so c'mon don't be so fearful


Trust me, man. I've had my share of "having cojones." I got screwed eventually. I don't really NEED to keep this video on my channel. I now have the Pirates of the Caribbean arrangement. The views from that video will compensate for the loss of Quique's buleria falseta video.

[8D]




El Kiko -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 10:58:38)

It only says MAY contain content .. so it May Not , as well , is it because it has Qiuque paredes written on it and his stuff may be copyrighted ?? like would it still have surfaced if you had called it Bulerias falseta by some guy ,,, and put his name in the description later, or if you said it was based on Quique implying it was not Exactly the same ...I dont actually know what the rules are here.
What would happen for example if you wrote a tune and put it on the net as ytour composition , then I find it , learn it , write it down and decide to put it on Youtube in parts for people to learn , can you really stop me?
I dont actually know the rules here except one and that is we dont own Youtube so really they can do what they want ....




mezzo -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 11:03:21)

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This is alarming in my opinion, because if flamenco videos start to get copyrighted and get targeted and deleted, we're all screwed!

So if you're really alarming by this, don't delete it!

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The views from that video will compensate for the loss...

But it seems you're more interested in the views count! ... [>:]
Audience is the beginning of the FAKE!




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 11:33:45)

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I dont actually know the rules here except one and that is we dont own Youtube so really they can do what they want ....


Exactly. That is why whenever I get ANYTHING related to copyright from now on, I just delete the video. Safest way to go...

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So if you're really alarming by this, don't delete it!

But it seems you're more interested in the views count! ...
Audience is the beginning of the FAKE!


I guess something got lost in translation there, mezzo. I didn't really get what you meant. Here's my reply, regardless: I'm going to delete it because I don't want my account to receive another copyright strike and get suspended for 6 months.

I am not sure what your other statement really means, but again, here's my reply: clearly I am interested in the view count. I mean, I am not making any money out of this, but I enjoy knowing that people are checking out the stuff I'm uploading. In the end, I am uploading this stuff just for my own pleasure, but mainly to try to help people out (as you notice, most of my videos are tutorials, sort of). Or else, I wouldn't have bothered going through the trouble of recording and editing and uploading, and just played in the privacy of my own room.

Cheers!




KMMI77 -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 11:57:06)

I wonder if the makers of your metronome have copyrights to the sound, Lol[8D]




El Kiko -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 12:02:49)

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but I enjoy knowing that people are checking out the stuff I'm uploading.


well thats good, just so you know , i uploaded it and have learned it and am playing it right now ,,

Anyway it says no action is required on your part and it is still available , so you dont have to delete it
the thing that gets me is when you say "attacks me AGAIN " , again !!, what are you doing that gets you so much attention from Youtube , maybe you are on there "most wanted" guys to be watched cos they done it before list...
[:-]
They are watching you rombsix ... watching and waiting , scanning your Youtube account , intercepting mail , having meetings around big tables about you, have probably opened a file on your youtube movements ...and your freinds and aquiantences will be questioned ......OMG thats me ......

I never heard of you ..

Burning my Guitar right now ..

deleting all files named "Bulerias"

Erase hard disk ....

growing a beard ............




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 12:06:17)

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I wonder if the makers of your metronome have copyrights to the sound, Lol


[8D]

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well thats good, just so you know , i uploaded it and have learned it and am playing it right now ,,

Anyway it says no action is required on your part and it is still available , so you dont have to delete it
the thing that gets me is when you say "attacks me AGAIN " , again !!, what are you doing that gets you so much attention from Youtube , maybe you are on there "most wanted" guys to be watched cos they done it before list...

They are watching you rombsix ... watching and waiting , scanning your Youtube account , intercepting mail , having meetings around big tables about you, have probably opened a file on your youtube movements ...and your freinds and aquiantences will be questioned ......OMG thats me ......

I never heard of you ..

Burning my Guitar right now ..

deleting all files named "Bulerias"

Erase hard disk ....

growing a beard ............


Can you be sure they aren't doing that? [8D]




mezzo -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 12:10:07)

Hey Rumbero, just to clarify, my last sentence wasn't a personal attack on you. Not at all. IMO your vids are very helpful and I always enjoyed watchin' em [:)]

I just noticed that the amateurial "fakers" whom uploaded YT vid under flamingo tags have always alot of subscribers and incredible numbers of views. Instead, the one who provide good flamenco stuff don't have such good visibility...
So that's why I resume audience = fake coz it seems that these fakers are really good, and spent alot of time for manage some audience.

Back on topic, from my experience nothing gonna happen with this YT message, so you don't really need to delete your vid. Of course it's your choice, so make what you feel the best.




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 12:18:34)

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Instead, the one who provide good flamenco stuff don't have such good visibility...


Well, I can't say I have "good flamenco stuff," really, but I'm trying to. Ricardo, Grisha, Jason, etc., though, have actual flamenco stuff, and they have TONS of views. I guess they're just too good, and much better than I ever will be, though, so there's no sense comparing myself to them...

Thanks mezzo! Et vive la France! [:)]




mezzo -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 12:25:16)

yeah that's why i talk only about amateurial and not professionnal [;)]




Escribano -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 13:15:54)

You don't have to do anything. They have recognised the music and the publishers are allowing it to stay so YouTube can place ads in the video and pay a little to the publisher. Happens all the time when you use or play copyrighted music on YouTube.




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 13:49:39)

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You don't have to do anything. They have recognised the music and the publishers are allowing it to stay so YouTube can place ads in the video and pay a little to the publisher. Happens all the time when you use or play copyrighted music on YouTube.


I'm sorry to say you're wrong, Simon. Notice that the thing says:

"Please note that the video's status can change, if the policies chosen by the content owners change."

Once, I fell into the trap that you fell for - I said, "Hey, they say I don't have to do anything, and the video will still be up, so I'm going to leave it." I woke up the day after and found that the "policies chosen by the content owners" DID change, and the video was deleted, and I received a permanent strike on my account. And now, I cannot upload unlisted videos anymore, so I had to create another YouTube account for that. I don't want to risk getting another strike, because this time, my account will get suspended for 6 months, and I really don't want that to happen.

Cheers!




xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 14:51:40)

i wonder how that works, i still have my Quique Paredes bulería up, and it's a complete piece almost note for note...weird...




Escribano -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 14:58:23)

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I'm sorry to say you're wrong, Simon


You know best. It hasn't happened to me that way. [8|]




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 15:09:00)

Ricsi and Simon: Probably Rico was right...

"They are watching you rombsix ... watching and waiting , scanning your Youtube account , intercepting mail , having meetings around big tables about you, have probably opened a file on your youtube movements"




El Kiko -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 15:28:52)

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i still have my Quique Paredes bulería up,

jimi

Yes I just looked at your OK-ish version of Ciprés, and I noticed , as I said before that you dont have Quique Paredes in the main title , unlike Rombsix, you just have in the info afterward , so you tube may just scan the main titles , and Romb might have been better off if he had retitled it ,,..

Anyway just in case They are watching I never heard of Rombsix or xirdneHRicsi (just in case )

(I wonder if They wear suits and sunglasses like M.I B . and have all kinds of weird tech going on )[8D]




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 15:49:16)

Rico, read this:

"I CAN'T believe this! The 15-minute video I just posted above of me on stage with my vocalist and guitarist friends just got FLAGGED by YouTube! I tried posting this video on another YouTube channel I have some time back, and I was dumb enough to include tags to the video with Pink Floyd and Wish You Were Here - it got flagged back then, and I assumed it was because of that.

This time, I uploaded the video as unlisted (so only YOU guys can see it), and the original video I uploaded was named in Arabic, and the name had nothing to do with the content. I placed NO TAGS to the video, but guess what!? I just received a notice saying that the content of my video has parts that are owned by UMPG Publishing with the content type being a musical composition .

Now, I'm NOT the computer expert, but I don't think that YouTube hires people to actually sit and watch videos ALL DAY LONG to just find out which ones have such copyright breaches so they can flag them. Also, I don't think any YouTube robots could have picked up my video because of any tags or file names. Also, I didn't use any MP3s of the original content, and we played the songs acoustically, and there was all that background noise - so I feel that some HUMAN actually saw the video and flagged it...

Did anyone of you guys do that!?

Simon, or Ron, or any other computer experts: PLEASE, do you have any clue as to HOW YouTube figured me out?

Is the CIA continuously monitoring my internet activity?! "

It came from this thread:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=168085&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1




Pimientito -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 15:57:19)

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Is the CIA continuously monitoring my internet activity?

Exactly. They have a special team who are expert at identifying falsetas from different guitar players and match your video content to the original. The less acurate the playing, the further it is from the original and so copyright isnt broken. The problem is you are getting TOO good. The CIA can recognise the falsetas too easily and since are now looking for a public enemy number 1 to replace Bin Laden, I'd quit the guitar right now if I were you.




John O. -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:13:35)

I'd say no worries, it says itself no action is required on your part. I got the same thing for "Con Garbo Y Salero" by Sabicas. It's been up for years and nothing happened.




El Kiko -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:17:56)

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"I CAN'T believe this!

Yes I remember that and ....I told you so .... they got your number now , expect a knock on the door soon, this goes for all your friends too, Pimientito, xirdneH_imiJ, mezzo, KMMI77 ...etc....

Remember just because your not paranoid doesn't mean people aren't watching you ...

As for me , I'm selling my house and moving to Tibet under the new name of Kico_Riko (no relation)



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rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:23:58)

Mark and Rico ... seems like you're enjoying this, aren't you?

Here's my response to your comments:





Pgh_flamenco -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:26:48)

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I uploaded the video as unlisted


If it was the same length as the first upload this may have caused their bots to flag it for review by the company that initially complained about it... This might work like the CD database look up function that some media players have. If two albums have the same number of songs and all the songs are the same length the program lets the listener choose the correct album otherwise it enters the data for you.




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:41:11)

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If it was the same length as the first upload


No it wasn't ... It was the same video, but the second time I uploaded it, it had videos before and after it (spliced using a video editing software). Still, thanks for point out that possibility.




El Kiko -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 16:45:00)

Sorry rombsix..........but Im much more worried about what Pimientito says about the CIA .
like...
They have a special team who are expert at identifying falsetas from different guitar players
and I thought , so why havent I been arrested yet ? until I read ...
quote:

The problem is you are getting TOO good.


And thought ooohh , I should be OK for years to come then ......[:-] no worries about that .




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 17:13:17)

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no worries about that .


Surely... rombsix rules, Rico drools. [;)]




XXX -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 17:15:25)

Relax guys. Ramzi is just doing this to get more hits on his vids (hehe). There is no warning from YT. False alarm, everybody back to his positions...




rombsix -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 17:24:20)

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Ramzi is just doing this to get more hits on his vids (hehe).


Hey! I never thought of this great idea before... I should stir up some drama every couple of weeks. I'll become famous in no time! Who needs medicine? [:D]




Florian -> RE: YouTube attacks me again... This time, it's alarming, though. (May 22 2011 18:11:16)

a suggestion...without anyone knowing anything your title tells them its not yours and may be a copyright infringement...next time dont use the name of the artist in the title...put it in your description if you want ...put buleria falseta and in the notes...say its from him etc...otherwise its not hard to do a search in goggle and see that you are not him therefor it must be a copyright infringement...they are just trying to cover their arses too...they have no idea who he is but if they did a search in goggle they know its not you




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