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Joined: Mar. 27 2008
From: Bargara Beach, Australia
Metronome Recommendations
I found the Metronome usage thread useful. I know of the computer based metronomes, but can people recommend a small portable? Is there one that emphasizes the 1st beat, and gives a different tone to the "and" - as in the one and two and etc.? Thanks in anticipation.
RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to cneberg)
None that I know of except for the Oscar Herrero model which is way too expensive for only practising.
The computer based metronome did wonders for my compás - the next best thing would be to get the compás CDs with only palmas and lots of tracks with different speeds (there are countless to be found here in the forum), or you can try looping palmas recordings to make tracks with different speeds to put on a CD yourself. I have software for doing this which was pretty cheap.
The next guy to come up with a small, portable compás metronome will get rich quick - I'm sure a lot of students as well as teachers would be interested in something like that.
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RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to Spencer)
It's pretty good: loud clear click, you can program number of beats in compas and accents, it has like 40 pre-programmed rhythms (all palos + some latin rhythms stuff, vals and so on). So, yes, I would recommend it.
I want one that works offline, too. Next month I'm was going to spring for the Oscar Herrera handheld flamenco metronome that John O. mentioned earlier:
Now that I've seen that "Mundo Beat" metronome, I might have changed my mind. That looks like it can be programmed with any rhythm, and is $240 cheaper!
Posts: 34
Joined: Mar. 27 2008
From: Bargara Beach, Australia
RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to Spencer)
Thanks for your contributions. Itoprover - the Mundo Beat has caught my attention!! Being PC or laptop bound doesn't work for me, and this seems a more workable alternative. Thanks again. Spencer (rugboots).
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From: Washington DC
RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to Spencer)
Just a good ol tick is the thing. You need to learn to internalize phrasing by accenting yourself. The tick is just to keep you even. No need for a loud one either. If you play ON the beat, you should not hear any tick. If you play off beats, you will hear the tick just fine.
But having said that, A student of mine picked up a generic digital hand sized metronome at the local music store, maybe 25 bucks? It had a louder tick that you could have every 2, every 3, 4, or 6. More than enough options.
The pre programmed patterns and loops that have it all filled in and accented are fun, but they don't help you learn subdivision. Those things are like training wheels on a bike. You have to learn to do it all yourself with just a steady tick as the reference. IMO.
RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to Ricardo)
I started learning in relative isolation using books/tab downloads...I've made every mistake you can imagine (and some that you can't even begin to think about).
When I first started practicing with a metronome (...not the little guy who works on the Paris underground) I had big problems playing in time - my internalised timing didn't match the outside world. It was a long hard effort to readjust my internal clock (I think Ricardo talked about this on another thread)...
...but something still wasn't right. Mrs RD was kind enough to buy me an Oscar Herrero metronome and after a bit of practice trying to nail down some simple bulerias compas I realised that every second compas I was playing 13 beats - adding an extra beat somewhere between the accents at beats 3 and 6 (as I said some mistakes you can't even imagine).
I'm now spending all my practice time re-learning what I thought I already knew...frustrating.
The moral of the story - don't go too far before getting your compas checked/corrected!
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RE: Metronome Recommendations (in reply to jganzabal)
quote:
Did you try Flamenco Metronome?
Hi Julián,
I have deleted some of your last few posts as all you have contributed is information about your metronome. This is considered bad form here and at worst, spamming.
It's easy to change speeds and has a tap function so if you tap the beat it will tell you the timing. And a bunch of other ticking schemes that I don't really bother with. It also has a light that flashes with each beat - I find that quite useful sometimes.
Good luck.
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