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Ricardo
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Pimientito)
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ORIGINAL: Pimientito quote:
ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha 1. i down and golpe m and a together 2. i up 3. a down 4. m down and accent, m connects to a and waits 5. i down 6. i up and m and a together 'energise' for strong golpe. HEY! THANKS! That makes a lot of sense. Your hand is already opening after third beat...use m for the first beat of the next triplet ( if you have enough independant control to accent it)and sets up nicely for the next golpe....but still a bit of a pig to not use a for the next round of triplets...more practice! I think those who take on this Paco challenge are going to pick up quite a few tricks along the way! Keep in mind the pattern is not constant with paco's version. 12,2,4, not 6. Then 7, 10. Then 1, but 4 he misses. I had an idea to do: 1. i(golpe with a) 2. i up 3. m down 4. i down 5. i up 6. m down. Problem is, m is darker sounding when going fast because it hits more the middle strings. a finger hits the trebles more, and paco gets a very bright sound. pretty sure at this point it is like it says, iia, iia,... Ricardo
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Date Jan. 14 2008 14:52:30
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Ricardo
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Ron.M)
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Thanks guys. It is really not ready yet for me. It is hard to keep relaxed and not rush certain parts w/out a metronome. You can see I just keep the foot going and that is how I learned it, just adding notes between foot taps and keep the beat going, no 12 counting or anything. I wish I could say now I know it that it is easier than I thought it would be, but it has some real tricky spots. No way I can run through perfectly, and after trying several times I start to burn out at high speed. I point out some of the real trouble spots for me at the end of the vid. That rasgueado I still can't do fast with the golpes. The synchopated falseta is really tough with the string crossing picados and off beat melody. To me that right there is harder than most modern synchopated stuff from Tomatito or whoever. Then there are the tremolo/arp/ picado things that Gerardo has mastered. Obviously Paco was doing it way before him. Really tough for me to do clean. Then the Aminor picado at the end, really tough to co-oridinate the bass notes into it, I miss a few here or there or can't time them perfect to the melody when going fast. And there is the speed. I tried to play to the recording, but it is crazy. The tuning is sharp too, so I suspect it is sped up a hair. If you guys can slow down with Quicktime or whatever, so the guitar is in standard pitch capo 3, I think THAT is the real speed he plays at. Still really fast, but I don't think anyone should have to play at the actual speed Paco is doing. So I will keep at it until it gets more natural and I can have the stamina to get through a few times, but it will take a while. In the meantime folks don't be shy to upload any bits of it you guys have down already, or if you need help working out certain spots. Ricardo
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Date Jan. 19 2008 4:19:17
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