"Vals"

Costs are rising and times are tough.
Please consider a donation to keep this
place going.

Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.

"Vals"

You are logged in as Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >>Discussions >>General >>

Page: [1]

Message

<< Newer Topic Older Topic >>

Stu

Posts: 2529
Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

"Vals"

No this isnt a personal post for you val. sorry.

I'm trying to find out what this prefix means.

I've been learning Moraitos Vals Buleria for while and its been bugging me,
Its the only "Vals buleria" I can find.

I see that Nino Miguel has a "Vals Flamenco" on one album and theres that "vals flamenco" on the Nunez DVD. ya know the track called Sevilla.

I typed "Vals" into Babelfishs' online translator but apparently the English equivilent is...... wait for it............."vals" great!!

Oh and I did recently find out that its pronounced with a B not V. "Bals"

It seems like a load of balls to me!!!

can anyone shed some light??

Stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 8:17:20

Kate

Posts: 1827
Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Stu)

Hi Stu

I'd never heard of this either but a google search unearthed this

"El vals ha sido el baile de salón más famoso del S.XIX. En sus orígenes se le relaciona con la Deutsche (danza alemana) y el Ländler de finales del S.XVIII. A principios del S.XIX obtuvo mucha popularidad, a pesar de las objeciones que hacían los moralistas e incluso los médicos (por la velocidad con la que los bailarines giraban). Se trata de una danza en compás de 3/4 y de un carácter variable.

Uno de los primeros virtuosos del piano que compuso valses fue Hummel. También Beethoven, en sus Variaciones Diabelli, escribía sencillas melodías en tiempo de vals. Pero es Schubert el compositor que por primera vez escribió música específica con el apelativo de Vals. "

And in english

Vals was the most famous dance of of the dance halls of the 19th century. Its origins are related to German dance and Ländler at the end of the 18th century. At the beginning of the 19th century it obtained much popularity, in spite of the objections if the moralists and even the doctors (due to the speed with which the dancers turned). It's a dance in compass of 3/4 and of variable character. One of the first virtuosos of the piano that composed valses was Hummel. Also Beethoven, in its Diabelli Variations, wrote simple melodías in time of vals. But the composer Schubert is the one who for the first time wrote specific music with the name of Vals."

Hope that helps. And yes in Spain V sounds like B.

¿Quieres un bino?

Kate ( la chica que bibe en El Albaicin)

_____________________________

Emilio Maya Temple
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000CA6OBC
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/emiliomaya

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 8:51:13

Escribano

Posts: 6415
Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Kate)

quote:

la chica que bibe en El Albaicin

Jejeje, y la chica que bebe... ?

_____________________________

Foro Flamenco founder and Admin

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 8:56:59

Zorro02

Posts: 151
Joined: Feb. 23 2007

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Stu)

I always believed that Vals=Waltz. Tarrega's Grand Vals, is a fine example.

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 9:33:52

Kate

Posts: 1827
Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Zorro02)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zorro02

I always believed that Vals=Waltz. Tarrega's Grand Vals, is a fine example.

Of course !!!!

Now you say it, it's obvious, that's exactly how the Spanish would say Waltz.

KAte

_____________________________

Emilio Maya Temple
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000CA6OBC
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/emiliomaya

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 10:06:41

Stu

Posts: 2529
Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Kate)

Thanks Kate, thats a nice description.
Vals = Waltz... makes sense thanks guys.

Could of searched on the net myself I suppose, but havent posted for a while so thought I'd try and get involved.

Stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 10:20:02

Kate

Posts: 1827
Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Escribano)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Escribano
Jejeje, y la chica que bebe... ?

Desde luego !!!!

Are you back at home now Simon ?

Kate

_____________________________

Emilio Maya Temple
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000CA6OBC
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/emiliomaya

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 23:46:42

Kate

Posts: 1827
Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: "Vals" (in reply to Stu)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Manzmann
Could of searched on the net myself I suppose, but havent posted for a while so thought I'd try and get involved.

Stu

Yes but sometimes these things only come up in Spanish searches which makes it a bit difficult. Anyway I learnt somehing from your question so its good you posted.

Kate

_____________________________

Emilio Maya Temple
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000CA6OBC
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/emiliomaya

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 14 2008 23:48:45