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Stu -> "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 8:17:20)

No this isnt a personal post for you val. sorry.

I'm trying to find out what this prefix means.

I've been learning Moraitos Vals Buleria for while and its been bugging me,
Its the only "Vals buleria" I can find.

I see that Nino Miguel has a "Vals Flamenco" on one album and theres that "vals flamenco" on the Nunez DVD. ya know the track called Sevilla.

I typed "Vals" into Babelfishs' online translator but apparently the English equivilent is...... wait for it............."vals" great!![&:]

Oh and I did recently find out that its pronounced with a B not V. "Bals"

It seems like a load of balls to me!!![:D]

can anyone shed some light??

Stu




Kate -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 8:51:13)

Hi Stu

I'd never heard of this either but a google search unearthed this

"El vals ha sido el baile de salón más famoso del S.XIX. En sus orígenes se le relaciona con la Deutsche (danza alemana) y el Ländler de finales del S.XVIII. A principios del S.XIX obtuvo mucha popularidad, a pesar de las objeciones que hacían los moralistas e incluso los médicos (por la velocidad con la que los bailarines giraban). Se trata de una danza en compás de 3/4 y de un carácter variable.

Uno de los primeros virtuosos del piano que compuso valses fue Hummel. También Beethoven, en sus Variaciones Diabelli, escribía sencillas melodías en tiempo de vals. Pero es Schubert el compositor que por primera vez escribió música específica con el apelativo de Vals. "

And in english

Vals was the most famous dance of of the dance halls of the 19th century. Its origins are related to German dance and Ländler at the end of the 18th century. At the beginning of the 19th century it obtained much popularity, in spite of the objections if the moralists and even the doctors (due to the speed with which the dancers turned). It's a dance in compass of 3/4 and of variable character. One of the first virtuosos of the piano that composed valses was Hummel. Also Beethoven, in its Diabelli Variations, wrote simple melodías in time of vals. But the composer Schubert is the one who for the first time wrote specific music with the name of Vals."

Hope that helps. And yes in Spain V sounds like B.

¿Quieres un bino?

Kate ( la chica que bibe en El Albaicin)




Escribano -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 8:56:59)

quote:

la chica que bibe en El Albaicin


Jejeje, y la chica que bebe... ?




Zorro02 -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 9:33:52)

I always believed that Vals=Waltz. Tarrega's Grand Vals, is a fine example.




Kate -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 10:06:41)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zorro02

I always believed that Vals=Waltz. Tarrega's Grand Vals, is a fine example.



Of course !!!! [&:] Now you say it, it's obvious, that's exactly how the Spanish would say Waltz.

KAte




Stu -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 10:20:02)

Thanks Kate, thats a nice description.
Vals = Waltz... makes sense thanks guys.

Could of searched on the net myself I suppose, but havent posted for a while so thought I'd try and get involved.

Stu




Kate -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 23:46:42)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano
Jejeje, y la chica que bebe... ?


Desde luego !!!!

Are you back at home now Simon ?

Kate




Kate -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 23:48:45)

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ORIGINAL: Manzmann
Could of searched on the net myself I suppose, but havent posted for a while so thought I'd try and get involved.

Stu


Yes but sometimes these things only come up in Spanish searches which makes it a bit difficult. Anyway I learnt somehing from your question so its good you posted.

Kate




Escribano -> RE: "Vals" (Jan. 14 2008 23:49:11)

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Are you back at home now Simon ?


Back on Weds. - in the UK at the moment.




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