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Billyboy
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RE: Todds Alegria (in reply to Florian)
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Iam serious, I'm not in the same league as Todd, but with flamenco, it is not technique orientated like classical guitar is, its based on feel, Denude, and rhythm, those things can't be practiced, the compas can be, but its like riding a bike, once you have the right feel thats it, what on earth could you spend 8 hours doing? And sometimes you can practice too much and tire out your right hand. Guitarists that do loads of Dance accompaniment, lose their dexterity in the right hand, I heard a few years ago, don't know if it is true, that solo flamenco concert guitarists try to limit the amount of dance accompaniment so as not to tire or damage the right hand, I think it was Don Peron that irreversibly damaged right hand ligaments from doing too much accompaniment. Dave
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Date Apr. 4 2004 13:19:03
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Billyboy
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RE: Todds Alegria (in reply to Florian)
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yeh but classical guitar you have to memorise complicated left hand patterns, with flamenco its a lot simpler in the left hand fingering, the only thing that separates me and Todd is compositional ability, technique wise nothing fazes me, and I play maybe 20 minutes every 2 days, but I think composing ability comes from ones listening habits rather than playing, and a natural musical ability to hear melodies, and re gurgitate it into something of ones own, this ability comes naturally, and no amount of practice will improve. I read an interview with PDL, and he said he doesn't practice in the trad sense, scales etc, just plays when he is trying to compose something, some people struggle with technique though, and need to practice loads. Dave
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Date Apr. 4 2004 16:48:24
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Escribano
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RE: Todds Alegria (in reply to Billyboy)
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could anyone tell what kind of practice you would do for say 5 6 hours a day I have played guitar since I was 13 (not flamenco). If I had 5 hours a day as I did on vacation in Jerez, I would practise flamenco 5-6 hours a day. Getting my arpeggios stronger and clearer, all kinds of rasgeos (particularly triplets and i-m-i for example), alzapua, picado (ah, picado), scales for finger memory and speed then the palos. All to the metronome. If I was aiming for accompanying, I would only work on clear rasgeos and the odd falseta in compas, you don't much time to play anything else. In Jerez, Fergus practised 3-4 hours a day and it showed.
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Date Apr. 4 2004 22:07:16
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Miguel de Maria
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RE: Todds Alegria (in reply to Florian)
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Dave, I can't figure out if you're joking or not. If you don't practice four hours a day, then you aren't a world class player. Have you ever heard what some pianist said, "If I don't practice one day, I notice; if I don't practice two days, my wife knows, if I don't practice three days, everyone knows." To get to a high level requires lots of playing and practicing and retaining the high level does as well. I don't think using yourself as an example is good because while you are a good player, you are not world-class. Flamenco is not anymore about duende than any other music. Other music calls it feel or soul or passion... The difference is that flamenco guitar is quite technically oriented. And I think Todd's main strength is not in his compositional ability but in his technique. He has incredible control, the control that comes to people who practice four hours a day and have good attention to detail.
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Date Apr. 5 2004 4:26:50
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Billyboy
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RE: Todds Alegria (in reply to Merle)
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Classical Piano is totally differant than Flamenco, and the 5 or 6 hours is only rquired for virtuoso playing, as Ian davis once said,'I have heard fantastic flamenco from guitarists that cannot play a tremelo, and only know three chords' I remember hearing Serranito on the radio, and he played everything at break neck speed, super fast picado, but nothing flamenco came out, it was just an exhibition of technique, I admit though that to be a pro flamenco player these days you need to have to have a large reportua of falsetas for each Palos, accompaniement experiance as well which probably would take up 5- 6 hours a day, but that is only to build up a large reportua, technique is like riding a bike, no matter how much you play triplets, they alway sound the same, I remember years ago, when I saw a guitarist play a triplet P,e,i, and as I had alway struggled to play the trad p,m,p, I went home, and found I could do it intantly, same with alzapua, no amount of practice makes much differance, although picado, and tremelo do seem to improve the more you practice, also the right hand strengh, and power inproves the more you play. Dave Dave
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Date Apr. 5 2004 22:12:19
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