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Posts: 440
Joined: Feb. 23 2005
From: La Jolla, Ca
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
PS...
I once TRIED to build a rosette...Damn......Talk about your exercise in futility!
There's 'stuff' on building them, but I've never seen anything really dedicated to HOW to do it. Do you build a jig to hold the little buggers? My pieces were just ALL over the place, and I finally gave it the Big Ef' It (lol) and walked away and started to PLAY a guitar, instead!
Found this...STILL looks daunting, and if I look at that Reyes rosette, I can begin to tell where the tiles are 'cut' to match the next set.... Just looks daunting!
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
IMO rosette making is an art in itself. I know how its done, and its perfectly do-able, but when you consider the time and effort involved, is it really worth making one when you can buy a reasonable one for just a few dollars? I would only MAKE one if I was blessed with time, and wanted something very specific.
On a side note, one of the nicest rosettes I've ever seen was the chip-carved one by Elliott
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Posts: 440
Joined: Feb. 23 2005
From: La Jolla, Ca
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
Yea...Saw that one when finished. Truly beautiful, and hard work, but I would think a touch simpler (but maybe not!) than all that stacking of those little pieces of firewood kindling you see in a regular rosette!
But for 'my look', I just like a traditional type rosette. The luthier's house I work at does his own - gorgeous - but I just seem to lean for the traditional style.
Posts: 440
Joined: Feb. 23 2005
From: La Jolla, Ca
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
How fast is very fast?
The fastest trains in commercial operation today are the French train à grande vitesse (TGV), the Japanese shinkansen (or bullet train) and the German InterCity Express (ICE). The TGV routinely travels at 300 kilometres per hour through the French countryside and has been clocked at 515 kilometres per hour in test runs. The bullet train averages 262 kilometres per hour between stations and has recorded 443 kilometres per hour in test runs, while the ICE has a top operational speed of 280 kilometres per hour and has recorded 408 kilometres per hour in trials.
These trains have several things in common:
* They all use electric motors (some very fast trains still run on diesel, but these are slower than their electric counterparts).
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
ya know, diesels, or rather electrodiesel locomotives in the united states have 2 gigantamunda (i believe that's a spanish word) v12 diesel engines that supply the electricity that runs the motor that moves the train. so i guess you could say that they are only partly diesel, and mostly electric. though probably not capable of hauling as much ass.
Posts: 302
Joined: May 27 2005
From: Zürich, Switzerland
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
Yeah, that's a Reyes Rosette
Don't think they are produced in series, but you may order them custom made from karin-rost.com It will not be cheap and you will have to buy a whole patch.
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
Hey Ramon, I just looked at the build your own rosette guide you posted. (in 27 simple stages) I was thinking "Forget that". Heart surgey looks easier! I had a Gerundino some years ago with this rose motif that i liked and never saw again
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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Pimientito)
The Gerundino rosette or one very similar is a commercial one that is readily available from some vendors in Spain. I like it and have used it several times.
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to nhills)
That's all well and good but by the time you taper the edges of that log to make it fit in a circle you'll loose part of the pattern. It's a little bit more complicated than designing a rectangular log.
Posts: 440
Joined: Feb. 23 2005
From: La Jolla, Ca
RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón)
Thanks everyone;
1. LMI doesn't have it. I buy most of my stuff from them, so I knew right away.
2. I have the program to design the rosette (thank you, Norman, and for your work here!) - now can you whip up one that MAKES the rosette?
Seriously - I tried - once - and had little 'kindling' all over the place until I said F-it. WAY too hard, IMHO, which is why I think - for that type of traditional rosette - it's kind of a speciality. I think many of Spain's builders use someone to make, yes?
I looked into a "custom block". Like $1500 USD by the time I get it here...
Hey... Anyone want a beautiful rosette like mine? $100 each?? What? Hello?? (silence......)
Actually, if I got enough people here that wanted one, I could get it down to 'reasonable', probably, but I'd have to sell like 40-50, and it'd take forever to recoup the investment....
What if I just took a piece of spruce, cut a ring, a used permanent ink pens and made little bitty' dots???
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