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Yamaha CG171SF or Saez 22 ??
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n85ae
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RE: Yamaha CG171SF or Saez 22 ?? (in reply to Arash)
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I have a Yamaha, and a Pedro De Miguel. I play the Yamaha every day, it sounds and plays great, and I don't worry about the kids banging on it. After they go to bed I get out the good guitar. The Yamaha, is a great guitar for the money, and after this one gets destroyed, I'll buy another. It's clearly not as good as a "real" flamenco guitar, but if you play it by itself it certainly sounds fine. I have a Guitar Center nearby, and the Yamaha on the rack there, out plays every single Cordoba they have. Put a bone saddle on it, set the string height where you like it, put some good strings on it, and beat the hell out of it. $350 is cheap. What's the decision?????? :)
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Date Jun. 28 2007 14:59:04
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GuitarVlog
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RE: Yamaha CG171SF or Saez 22 ?? (in reply to Arash)
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This is an old topic from 2007 but I thought it's worth it to chime in with some recent experience after doing a head-to-head comparison. The information here will be useful for those who are considering these guitars. I had the opportunity today to set-up a Prudencio Saez 24 and a Lucida 797 (aka Prudencio Saez 22) for a friend. The Lucida sells for about $800 new if you can find it. The Prudencio Saez sells for about $1000 new. He acquired both used. Both guitars were 5 years old from their date of purchase. The work included swapping out the nuts and saddles with bone, cleaning, polishing, and action adjustment. The original nuts and saddles seemed to be Tusq. I think the Saez had a bone saddle but I replaced it anyway. I then strung-up both with Oasis GPX normal tension carbons. It was immediately obvious that the Saez and the Lucida were built in the ways I understand flamencas should be: with lower bridges, slightly thinner bodies, and flatter neck angles. Both also have the typical Spanish heel contruction. In contrast, my Yamaha CG171SF is a classico blanco with a classical guitar's depth, a slightly lower (but not flamenco low) bridge, and a neck block. What I found most interesting was the the tonal difference versus my Yamaha which also has carbon strings and an upgraded bone saddle. The Lucida and the Saez were better but not by much despite having all-solid wood construction. I would be inclined to pay more for either of these guitars but not at the prices they are offering them here in the US. If either can be found used and in near mint condition, I would consider $450 to $500 to be fair. Of course, many of us know that Francisco Navarro's student guitars can be had for $700 to $800 and those are not too far off. My opinion as of today would be to get the Yamaha if you're on a very tight budget or the Navarro if you can spend more. But don't pay $800-$1000 for a new Saez or Lucida. The price spread in Europe seems notably smaller (as mentioned in the original 2007 post, 400 Euros for Yamaha vs 450 Euros for the Saez) so someone there could opt for the Saez.
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