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What does flamenco mean to you?
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What does flamenco mean to you?
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| It's a world you can reach by all sort of ways and disciplines. |
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| For me only counts it has the right soul and compas. |
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| I like everything that has something to do do with Spain. |
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| Flamenco guitar is the best way to show how virtuoso you can play. |
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| I just play to impress the girls |
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| I like to be on Foroflamenco, so I HAVE to play flamenco to belong her |
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| I don't care as long as I'm the fastest and have the hottest chick ! |
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| Flamenco for me is just a vehicle to get famous. |
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| Find out about duende by sorting glass 11 hours a day |
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Total Votes : 28
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(last vote on : Dec. 30 2010 19:20:21)
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Ron.M
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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland
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 RE: What does flamenco mean to you? (in reply to koella)
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Koella,
I see you too are at a loose end on a Friday night ..(unlike our younger counterparts looking for drink, women and action...LOL!)
I can't really find any catagory to vote on here..but..
On Flamenco, I admire really great technical playing on the guitar and I'm really wowed out by it, but I'm also wowed out by really "simple" stuff too.
It's not that "OK...you're over 40 so you're into Sabicas and Diego del Gastor stuff", etc...
Nothing could be further from the truth.
What tends to bore me is hearing something full of clever chords and nuances and doesn't really say anything except "hey..check this out guys".
It's like someone telling you a joke that you've heard before, but are too embarrassed to say so, so you laugh and say great!
Does Flamenco guitar have to be "virtuoso" to be great?
I'd say "No".
Listen to this playing by Diego Amaya accompanying Capullo...
www.btinternet.com/~flamenco/Capullo-y-Diego.mp3
Sorry for the sound quality, but it's from a small "live" performance off a VHS tape.
The guitar technique used is hardly above a lot of the players here....but most of the guitar players here couldn't come close to it....isn't that a dichotomy??
What makes it so good?
Can anyone here deny that it's got "that sound"?
The precision, the tiny details of strumming and accent, the just being "right on the spot".
No great picado or alzapua here...but what taste and sensitivity!
To me, this is what Flamenco guitar is all about.
cheers,
Ron
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Date Apr. 13 2007 21:05:52
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RE: What does flamenco mean to you? (in reply to koella)
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oh bloody hell, not another stupid poll  well i voted. You forgot to put in a cpt beefcakes option. Like 'to me flamenco is just a way to get my foot in the door at the cpt. beefcakes factory'.
O.k ill try a put a serious answer in for the question. For me flamenco is a guitar style i prefered over all the others that i had heard before. Because of the wide range of sounds, rythms and techniques i think flamenco give the guitarist unlimited scope for expression with their instrument. Yes flamenco is completly guitar orientated for me if i didnt play guitar i probably wouldnt be into it. But if i was a singer or dancer i think flamenco would have had the same attraction.
That being said, im sure that if i was in spain it would probably have a completly different cultural meaning and significance and guitar would just be something you happen to do to be a part of it. But im not in spain so atm for me its completly guitar orientated and i dont think that theres anything wrong with that. Thats probably not the right answer and not puro enough for some but im being honest. 
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Date Apr. 13 2007 22:23:42
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RE: What does flamenco mean to you? (in reply to duende)
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Flamenco is a soaking wet Vicente in a pool
let us never speak of that photo again 
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Date Apr. 14 2007 5:36:17
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JBASHORUN
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RE: What does flamenco mean to you? (in reply to koella)
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There's only ONE serious choice in the poll, and thats the one about it having the right "soul and compas". But for me, Flamenco is more than just soul and compas... its a MIX of things...technique, compas, virtuosity, duende, and composition, amongst others.
But if you're asking (literally) what Flamenco is about, it does come down to compas and "The Holy Trinity" (TBC: Toque, Baile, Cante).
Interesting to see that many people said they "just play to impress the girls"... I'm guessing that was the likes of Dominic and Florian...
Jb
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Date Apr. 14 2007 13:00:21
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: What does flamenco mean to you? (in reply to blanca)
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lol you bast*rd !!  u know i am doing the temporary glass thing to get a better guitar
didnt we just do this question a few weeks ago ? 
flamenco means alot of things to me, depending on what day u are asking
I couldnt setlle on just one I picked this 3 today:
I just play to impress the girls
I don't care as long as I'm the fastest and have the hottest chick !
Find out about duende by sorting glass 11 hours a day
but serious, flamenco to me and everyone else is a personal thing, it means alot of things to many different people (every one just as justified) , none of my non flamenco friends understand it even tho some of them are spanish, i dont know how to explain it to them, i dont know how to do it justice with words, how it makes me feel and why it makes me feel like that and even if i did, whats the point they have no refference.
closest i can say is when i hear great cante, i get that knot in my troat, when i watch a dvd with some great dancing and after long footwork dancer goes into a buleria (for example) and the guitar goes into scratching and the dancer starts doing cool brakes etc, i find myself yelling out " Ole!" even if i am by myself.
when i am in the mood to listen to flamenco i never ever put on a guitar solo cd, infact the only time i ever listen to guitar solo cds now is when i am practicing, or am scouting for ideas or falsetas, i dont know, all tho it impresses me it dosent touch me nowhere near as much.
in the end i dont think anyone else can truly know how flamenco affects the other guy or what it means to him, or could ever judge or dissmiss it until they bring out a flamencometer.
not at all suggesting that you are judging it, but there are some people who are convinced that they and they alone know what it is and what it means and what it should be and are a litlle dissmisive, no song ever affects 2 people exactly the same way, unless one has just copyed the others words.
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