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RE: Farruca (in reply to sbarnard)
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Hi Scott. Might help your recital if you watch any videos you can of farruca being danced. Antonio Gades, Antonio Canales, El Farruco and of course Ruis Soler. It will give you an idea of what the mood or "aire" should be. The dance is a sort of personal strut, if you will, with elements of the corrida thrown in and solo guitar is the only accompaniment needed (IMO of course). Can be quite a powerful piece if you imagine playing for a dancer and an "invisible'" dancer image might do no harm when you play. Just thoughts. Jim.
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Date Dec. 22 2003 21:06:48
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RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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Going to show my ignorance here Andy, but , although I am familar with the dance, all I can remember about the farruca palo on guitar is a vague memory of playing D7? somewhere and adding a third fret high e note into it before something like A7, da da da da da da da, dum dum dee dum, then repeating it on differen chords .......? So much for my guitar playing (-: Jim.
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Date Dec. 23 2003 12:47:22
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RE: Farruca (in reply to eslastra)
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Hi Eddie. I have a video of a very young Antonio Canales working with two guitarists on farruca. It is, as you so rightly described a palo that switches moods dramatically. One minute slow and stately, using corrida movement, the next full of staccato outbursts. Farruca doesn't get too much rating in flamenco discussions because it is not a cante orientated palo. A dancer, and if they work together, a guitarist can make it really live. I learned a version of the basic dance, unfortunately to tape music, but it isn't a dance where you have to follow patterns like other flamenco rythmns. As I stated initially, it is a very personal statement for a dancer and can be worked out with a guitarist totally in this way. I have always thought it very wrong for students to be led to believe that they lead guitarists. This is only true at a very professional stage and it would be far better and more encouraging if the students listened to a guitarists version and then worked with them as to how they wish to dance it. I don't believe in crash-course flamenco anything as it takes years just to understand the art. Nice to see you guys have a better opinion of farruca then most people. I love it. If you can ever get to see the film clip of Antonio Gades perform farruca it is a must see. Majestic. Jim.
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Date Dec. 23 2003 22:25:16
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And Zapateado. RE: Farruca (in reply to bailoro2000)
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Might as well ask if anyone's working zapateado whilst I have the chance. (-: This is the other cante-free palo in the dancer repetoire and, as it is a question and answer situation between dancer/guitarist, can be quite challenging and explosive. It, like farruca, ranges from slow to rapid and is enjotyable because of it. I recommend you to try and watch the Jiminez version of it on the great (now quite old) "Duende y mysterioso de flamenco" video. This is the best. Best wishes for the festive season to all. Jim.
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Date Dec. 24 2003 9:08:38
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RE: And Zapateado. RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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ORIGINAL: Guest Might as well ask if anyone's working zapateado whilst I have the chance. (-: This is the other cante-free palo in the dancer repetoire and, as it is a question and answer situation between dancer/guitarist, can be quite challenging and explosive. It, like farruca, ranges from slow to rapid and is enjotyable because of it. I recommend you to try and watch the Jiminez version of it on the great (now quite old) "Duende y mysterioso de flamenco" video. This is the best. Best wishes for the festive season to all. Jim. Jim, Unlike the Farruca, Zapateado is very rarely performed or taught anymore. The fact that we still know about it really gives away our age I have only come across a handful of guitarists that know how to strum the correct rasgueado pattern for this palo and these guys are older than me . The aire of Zapateado is lighter than Farruca, but it's definitely got challenges for the guitarist. Especially the coordination of 'campanas' section with the dancer's 'taconeo' that starts very slowly and gradually accelerates to maximum speed. You better to have a well developed wrist and forearm to keep up with this one and still have some more left to bring it to the finale. Since old things tend to come back, maybe the Zapateado will make a resurgence, except maybe we'll see some break dance moves fitted in Have nice holiday season.
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Date Dec. 24 2003 16:12:39
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RE: And Zapateado. RE: Farruca (in reply to Thomas Whiteley)
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Just chiming in to say i love Farruca and Zapateado. Though i'm on the young side, i'm totally into the 50's and 60's stuff. I'm playing a concert wednsday, and i'm playing lots of Sabicas including one of his Farruca's, and his wonderful Zapateado en Re. FTK
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Date Jan. 18 2004 17:40:28
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RE: And Zapateado. RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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Hola FTK, I like the Farruca, Zapateado, Danza Mora, Verdiales, and other light stuff also. It's nice to see that it's being done still in concert somewhere, and that one can speak freely about it here. G. Salazar
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Date Jan. 18 2004 20:52:24
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And Peteneras? RE: Farruca (in reply to bailoro2000)
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Got a discussion going on the dancer forum about Peteneras, yet another of flamenco's "dying away" palos. I really like this palo, and it was always a dance favourite. Any of you still playing this, or have any info to offer? Jim.
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Date Jan. 30 2004 10:48:52
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RE: And Zapateado. RE: Farruca (in reply to bailoro2000)
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anyone in the Los Angeles area play flamenco guitar and is looking to put together a small band? Let me know
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Date May 30 2004 22:05:34
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RE: Farruca (in reply to ToddK)
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Nice to see so many guitarists keeping this palo alive. The farruca is in effect the dancer's "piece de resistance" and is coming back in favour a little since female dancers like Sara Baras are including it in their repetoire. It is an entirely personal thing, much like a guitarist composing their own version of a palo as opposed to playing the works of others. Doubt if anyone will ever do it better than Antonio Gadez, although Antonio Canales did a decent one when much younger. Keep up the good work guys. Jim.
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Date Dec. 9 2004 10:49:49
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RE: And Peteneras? RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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Hola Jim Every year there is a major Peteneras cante competition in Paterna de la Rivera (where some claim the Petenera was born). Every singer from Paterna sings it and the competition is attended by thousands. With support like that, this cante is in no danger of dying out. Suerte Sean
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Date Dec. 9 2004 12:47:06
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RE: And Peteneras? RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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Hola Sean. Glad to hear that as peteneras has always been a favourite palo of mine (bad luck element regardless). Got a video clip somewhere of La Tona dancing it and a few decent audio versions. There's also a decent peteneras on the video "Duende y mysterioso de flamenco", the one with Antonio dancing martinetes in Ronda's El Taco with just unaccompanied cante as support. Gee, we're talking real flamenco ((-: Jim.
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Date Dec. 9 2004 13:30:49
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RE: And Peteneras? RE: Farruca (in reply to Guest)
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Jim The "bad luck" element of Peteneras is no help, though I feel it is more of a gitano affectation than anything else, After all, la Niña de los Peines was gitana and is considered on of the greatest interpreters of this cante. On a more humorous note, Jose Millan once told me when he was with some friends at a festival and could not get to the bar for crowds of gitanos. So he started to sing Peteneras, the gitanos scowled and moved away, leaving a clear space at the bar for the gaditanos. Suerte Sean
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Date Dec. 9 2004 15:56:29
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