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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
A few years ago I learnt this piece , but like a lot of modern Bulerias, without Palmas as backing, the peice as a straight solo doesen't sound that good. Billy
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Guest)
Billyboy I agree with you about that, alot of the modern stuff tends to be that way, sometimes way too much , like if you didnt have a backing compas the listener wouldnt even know what it is.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
La Chanca is a good example of that, without palmas it just sounds like a jumble of chords and notes, I find only traditional stuff sounds good unacompanied, with a distinctive compas, that even non flamencos, can appreciate.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
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ORIGINAL: Florian
Jon heres the Moraito sevillana, sorry it took so long enjoy.
Hi Florian. Thanks for this. After having a look at this I ordered Faucher's book
I'm really into that Moraito album, and there are several pieces I'd like to study.
Faucher's transcription looks excellent and best of all, this material actually looks playable (hoorah! modern flamenco that is within the reach of mere mortals ) Jon
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Guest)
Jon,
I also got Faucher’s Moraito book about a month ago. I have been working on the Solea and the Tango’s. I am doing the Solea intro and a falseta for the Group Solea project. Excellent transcriptions and the best part, as you said, is they are very playable by us mere mortals. What I really like about his stuff is it’s highly grounded in old style, yet has that neat modern twist.
One thing I found interesting is the guy must have rubber fingers. Some of the stretches are almost undoable for me. On the Solea, I had to tweak the fingering a hair, just to get it up to speed.
One thing I did find, is on the Tango’s intro, the transcription missed a falseta repeat that’s on the CD. If you follow the transcription, it doesn’t flow well. Just listen to the CD and you will pick it up.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Guest)
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Excellent transcriptions and the best part, as you said, is they are very playable by us mere mortals. What I really like about his stuff is it’s highly grounded in old style, yet has that neat modern twist.
I have Moraito's Encuentro video and I'm searching for the tablature book that I know exists somewhere. I agree with you that his material is accessible to the average schmoe like me. On the Encuentro video and on the CD he recorded accompanying Terremoto, he plays an absolutely beautiful Malagueñas falseta using octaves and it doesn't appear to be too technically difficult. I guess I'm going to have to take a crack at by ear (and eye, since I have the video), but it would be so much easier if I had the tab (I'm a bit lazy). I think this particular falseta is destined to become a classic. I've heard a few guitarists use it in live performances. Moraito's stuff, in general, is not too technically difficult, but it's not overly simplistic either. The real problem is getting it to sound like the way he plays it. The devil is in the details, as someone once said. I guess that's what separates the pros from the amatuers. Phil
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Phil)
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ORIGINAL: Phil Moraito's stuff, in general, is not too technically difficult, but it's not overly simplistic either. The real problem is getting it to sound like the way he plays it. The devil is in the details, as someone once said. I guess that's what separates the pros from the amatuers.
Aint that the truth Phil?
I've been preparing a long post for the forum on this very subject which I'm trying to edit down to something coherent
That last comment of yours is practically word for word from my post
Hello! Go to flamenco.ru and get a book with tab from a tomatito video I don't remember the add but search for russian flamenco and you will find it. it allso has a lot of old Paco de lucia and enrique de melchor falsetas
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Jon Boyes)
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Bloody 'ell, this is a scan of the entire book that accompanies the Tomatito Encuentro tuition video. ...errmm fancy a discussion on ethics anyone??
Well, I've finally found the elusive book that goes with the video I have. Now, on to other matters. The nerve of those unethical scroundrels! The next thing you know they'll be posting the Moraito book or the Pepe Habichuela's or the Merengue book (there's some nice playable stuff on his video). I'd better stop talking. I don't want to give those people any more unethical ideas. Phil (That's not my real name and I didn't download the book and nobody can prove I did).
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Phil)
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ORIGINAL: Phil Well, I've finally found the elusive book that goes with the video I have.
Actually, I have to say I was rather pleased to see that the one Bulerias falsetta of Tomatito's that I had worked out from watching the video was note for note. Where's that 'chuffed' looking smiley? Ah yes:
...mind you, playing it convincingly is another matter entirely..
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Jon Boyes)
Jon said,
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Actually, I have to say I was rather pleased to see that the one Bulerias falsetta of Tomatito's that I had worked out from watching the video was note for note.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Phil)
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ORIGINAL: Phil Now that's a real confidence builder.
Well, yes and no Phil. I've always had a good ear and from the day I picked up a guitar I was working things out by listening. They didn't have tab in those days!
However, whilst I may have all the notes correct and even in time, somehow my rendition of anything Tomatito plays brings back memories of Rolf Harris doing 'Stairway to Heaven'... Jon
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
Hey Florian, That TEF file was an eye opener for me , I never came across anything like that before. The bar running through the tab and the matching finger locations on the fret board below. Amazing! I can't get into normal tab as I go a bit word blind and it stops making sense to me quite quickly, these TEF files however are a different story altogether, I feel I could pick up from these quite well. So mi amigo, please tell me more! How do I get TEF and tabs like the tangos. Great stuff! Cheers Jim.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
hiii all,....I am new here and thank u all for the help you are giving here. I am looking for vector monge ( serranito ) tabs tef or gp and sheets for such wonderful pieces like campanilas,en la otraorilla,fantasia a sevilla,luz,pajaro campana,and poema granada....they are wonderful ! and I am offering to give any tab of flamenco I have . thank you very much.
RE: request for tabature - Vicente A... (in reply to Guest)
I HAVE A WEBSITE WITH VINCENTE AMIGO TABS ON IT, DONT KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME SONG YOU WANT, IF YOU NEED IT STILL LET ME KNOW. MY EMAIL IS GTRR66@MSN.COM THANKS
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Jim Opfer)
Hi Jim , I am sorry i missed you post
Yes the Tef files are very very easy to use, They are also greate to transcribe stuff with, i have quite alot of tef tablature let me know if u need anything il see if i can get it for you.
PS , you can also import Midi files into it and text files
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
I have been using TablEdit for many years and use it for my web site, Handbooks and in general, all my tab work. In my collection I have about 2000 tabs which are not commercially available, things I learned over the years from others as well as original music.
TablEdit has many features and here are a few that I like for learning a new piece:
1. You can divide the new piece into sections by doing a copy to a new file. Label the files with a logical name such as Soleares Introduction, Sloeares Falseta 1, etc.
2. Play the Introduction as an example and use the Repeat function to place the piece in a loop as you play along with the Midi output.
3. Adjust the speed as required and as you learn the new piece you can increase the speed.
4. Finally, you can play along the file containing the entire piece.
There are many features within TablEdit and it is fun to learn how to use it. To be honest, it took me a while to learn and I found out it is best to start with a small project, make copies of the files and date them. So I end up with something like Intro 1-24-04, Intro 1-25-04, etc. The intent is to modify the latest copy and be able to fall back to the last one.
Completed and files in progress are kept in locigal folders. That is work folders are created for Soleares, broken down by Intro, Falseta, Llamada, Ending, etc. The completed piece is placed in its own folder.
Starting off with a plan before you do something sometimes helps!
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Florian)
Florian;
You can take an original file and do a Save As – give it a new name and go from there. Additional material can then be added.
To start from scratch:
1. Set the Time Signature.
2. Be sure you have enough measures or add more.
3. Save it.
4. Open the first file to copy.
5. Highlight the bars to copy or press the control and A keys of your keyboard to copy the entire Tab.
6. Control C will save it.
7. Return to the new file.
8. Place the cursor on the first note of the first string and press control X to paste it.
9. Save your work (I am big on saving work.)
This works fine. You can add additional material. Take a falseta etc. from different pieces and paste it together. Always be sure you have lots of blank measures.
Is that understandable? If not let me know. Try it with a few short pieces to get the hang of it.
RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Jon Boyes)
Thank you so much Tom very very helpfull, my pc is a mess with a million falsetas that i start on and forghet about or start something else, I have transcribed so many good falsetas the only problem is that i cant find them :)
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On the Encuentro video and on the CD he recorded accompanying Terremoto, he plays an absolutely beautiful Malagueñas falseta using octaves and it doesn't appear to be too technically difficult. I guess I'm going to have to take a crack at by ear (and eye, since I have the video), but it would be so much easier if I had the tab (I'm a bit lazy). I think this particular falseta is destined to become a classic. I've heard a few guitarists use it in live performances. Moraito's stuff, in general, is not too technically difficult, but it's not overly simplistic either. The real problem is getting it to sound like the way he plays it. The devil is in the details, as someone once said. 
I guess that's what separates the pros from the amatuers. 
, I never came across anything like that before. The bar running through the tab and the matching finger locations on the fret board below. Amazing! 
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