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Flamenco Puro & the trinity balance...
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Doitsujin
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RE: Flamenco Puro & the trinity bala... (in reply to JBASHORUN)
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In newer interviews very popular guitarrists (many) said that guitarrists dont get the respect which they have to get. They are all very pissed off about that. For me, flamenco without guitar is very boring. Solo cante without guitar is horrible IMO. Dance solo de pie is ok, but not a whole coeography. The only thing which works perfectly with the others together and solo, too is the guitar. I think the rating of importance in flamenco lacks. All four singing, dancing, guitar AND percussion have the same importance. The guitar has the hardest job, it have to build up the harmonical basis and push to help that the singer and the dancer can shine. The job of the singer is easyer coz he doesnt have to feel what the guitar is feeling or the dance. And the guitar has to feel and play what the dance is saying. Only during sole parts the guitar is noones slave and can say what it is feeling. The percussion is a thankless job. It have to push all the other 3. Its like the job of a bass in a band. Without is sounds empty but if its there, no one spends attention.. I think the order who have to push who doesnt depend on importance, it depends on the ability to be able to push the others. The singer cant follow the guitar and the dance cant do that, too. Only the percussion. The dance and the guitar is more flexible, so the help the singer. To rate which is the most important thing is... Its like to think about what is more important,... the brain or the heart....or maybe the lunge???? If one of them isnt there you are dead. So there is no order of importance. Only and ore who is able to follow the others. If we only focus on that, the one who can follow and push most of the others is the most important one. And it would be the percussion, than the guitar than the dance and at the end with less importance the singing. Just some thoughts. For me they have to work 100% together. So all have exactly the same importance.
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Date May 10 2006 9:52:35
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Ricardo
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RE: Flamenco Puro & the trinity bala... (in reply to JBASHORUN)
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Flamenco is most powerful with all three elements. But it can certainly stand on the "leg" of any of the 3. Solo cante, solo baile, solo guitar. For the general audience of the world, an hour and a half of solo guitar is acceptable, but an hour of ONLY cante or ONLY baile?. But for the die hard flamenco, ONLY cante is fine, even all night. Many cante aficionados get bored easily with solo guitar. Dancing without music/cante for anything more than a single number or improvised footwork, is kind of strange. But the idea that all 3 elements have strength on their own, makes the group as a whole very special. In Andalucia it is always voice and guitar, and that is it most of the time interms of flamenco perfomance. Maybe one cameo dance segment. Almost no guitar solo concerts. But the real spectacle for the world outside Spain is the whole package with dancer out front, even with several dancers on stage. Pecking order really comes from who is the most famous or most knowleadgeable of the group. If any of the group of 3 is "weak", the overall group would benefit with just the other 2. A bad guitarist does not help a strong dancer and singer, in fact it even could ruin a juerga. Likewise a bad singer is just "there" to fill in the spot where the letra goes in a dance show. So in that way I do see it as a balance, in terms of performance. But at the heart of flamenco are the SONG forms. That means the foundation is the singing. That is why the emphasis on cante and it's importance. The dancer dances to the song, the guitarist harmonizes, the singer just sings. Rhythm, harmony, melody. Imagine the Beatles. Imagine if their music was ONLY instrumentals. Imagine if they never used guitar or drums/bass, only sang acapella. Imagine all the people.... Ricardo
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Date May 13 2006 7:39:43
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