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It sounds great. I dont know much about cana roto guys. But it seems to be their style. Even their right hand posture looks similar. What Kilino Jimenez is playing here sounds great as well. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Ndo3fLHdRK0
RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Stu)
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but whats your actual fave? or one of them.
I have more than one favourite. In general most of my fav falsetas are pulgar driven or pi stuff. Call me old school. But hey that's the real flamenco sound. For example the first Marlow video above or Bernal video at 11:12. It can be played both in Alegrias and Guajira.
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Stu)
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find it hard to listen to Angeles Toledano devilhand sorry.
We know devil loves her and Morante could not tolerate her Cadiz stylistic failures, but what exactly do you not like about her? Her technique (vocal sound) or what she is singing?
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Ricardo)
I don't get past the sound really. her voice kinda just grates on my ears. (I don't wish to be mean) I just literally find the sound hard to listen to.
on further consideration, (I'm no cante expert) but as well as the harsh sound I think maybe there is some stylistic stuff in there that i dont really reslise, but it just leaves a kind of stress in me....like maybe im so used to certain style/technique and shes not doing those things that my ear is so accustomed to hear?? so although I perhaps couldnt articulate the specifics.... something jars
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to devilhand)
Favorite? When? I found this one four years ago. Spent a little time trying to learn it and failed. Maybe time to try again. But my current favorites tend to be the ones I just learned.
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Mark2)
Nano is a new star of Canorroto. My friend told me he can teach most of the falseta from Canorroto and he also teaches accompaniment. And the most important thing is he can speak some English
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Stu)
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ORIGINAL: Stu
I just literally find the sound hard to listen to.
I find her voice and way of singing annoying too, but I can't really figure out why as well. Because it is not really "wrong" or "bad", just, annoying! Like a door bell or dial tone from phone
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RE: Post your favourite falsetas (in reply to Arash)
So it is interesting to me because she is not doing anything majorly "wrong". She has excellent pitch, and using a robust vocal technique that she turns "on" in the high register very naturally (like that guy from Air Supply ), and I think it is really cool. She is singing traditional models like the recent thing devil posted, Manuel Torre's Minera/Taranto, or Tomás Pavon's Soleá etc., and she is orders of magnitude more accurate or authentic about it than Rosalia etc.
But I also agreed with Morante that she has questionable taste in the way she delivers these things that I can't even put my finger on. And in the high range that she sings, turning on that robust voice is like a constant laser beam with no breaks for air that gets on your nerves. She holds that tone forever very efficiently but it never breathes. It is weird. I mean I wish I could do it but would use that skill differently. El Pele has this too and some people don't like him for the same reason....that high tessitura gets on the nerves after a while. For her the guitar is capo 2 arriba (9 por medio) and she is singing up there. For reference that is what Paco had those guys do for Zyryab and the guys scream up there, very inefficient singing honestly because it is too high.
I guess a good comparison would be her soleá in that video above to Chonchi Heredia when she sang for Paco in the same key. Can't find it but here at 5:05 is a little lower and doesn't bother me as much as Toledano for no explainable reason: