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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to rombsix)
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That one guy even has one of his feet learning against the stage
I didn't watch the video after reading that, but looking at it just now...what is the problem? It's an 'intimate' gig and the guy who has transgressed all proper deportment, encroaching on their domain, is smiling and loving it. The musicians will be responding to that non-verbal communication and it will improve their communion with the audience. I very much doubt they would find it a problem. Any musician who gets territorial with the audience is not going to have much of a career.
I did wonder about the clave which seems afro-cuban.
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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to El Burdo)
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ORIGINAL: El Burdo
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That one guy even has one of his feet learning against the stage
I didn't watch the video after reading that, but looking at it just now...what is the problem? It's an 'intimate' gig and the guy who has transgressed all proper deportment, encroaching on their domain, is smiling and loving it. The musicians will be responding to that non-verbal communication and it will improve their communion with the audience. I very much doubt they would find it a problem. Any musician who gets territorial with the audience is not going to have much of a career.
I did wonder about the clave which seems afro-cuban.
This issue is an interesting psychological one that will be different for each individual, but in my experience playing for different audience types, I rank the nerve factor by this:
1. Nobody around, it is relaxing. 2. Playing for people you know at home, is not bad either. 3. Playing at a very loud venue where people are talking while you play can be distracting but not really nerve racking. 4. Very large group of people that are quiet and attentive produces nervous energy. After a certain uncountable size, the actual attendance number is arbitrary, could be hundreds, could be thousands, it feels the same. 5. As the group of quiet observers shrinks in size, the nerves go up exponentially. I feel this is because there is a gradual feeling of individual scrutiny. Like the "juries" that are grading music students in school, there is a feeling of "judgement" that a strong air in the room that you the performer can't escape. That intensifies as the group shrinks to a point you the performer are aware of individual personalities in the room. 6. A single individual watching you, especially a stranger that you don't know their level of understanding and scrutiny, makes you super uncomfortable to the point you hope it ends as soon as possible. 7. Playing in front of a respected Maestro, who you sense is also feeling uncomfortable at sitting through your mediocre execution and therefore squirming in their chair, is HORRIFIC.
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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
7. Playing in front of a respected Maestro, who you sense is also feeling uncomfortable at sitting through your mediocre execution and therefore squirming in their chair, is HORRIFIC.
I think our Member Bulerias2005 (Daniel Volovets) still holds the record for most "horrific", when he played for Paco with his whole group sitting there too. I would poop my pants.
Which, as a side note, reminds me of Paco himself also said if I remember correctly. He said something like he always played for other guitarists when performing, not for "normal" audience, and he always felt like he has to surprise them and he knows how good some guitarists are and that he is being closely watched, and that is kind of a "pressure" for him too (or something along those lines). So even Paco felt some slight nervous energy at times, but for slightly other reasons (the pressure of being the best and always having to surprise and deliver the best)
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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to Arash)
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I think our Member Bulerias2005 (Daniel Volovets) still holds the record for most "horrific", when he played for Paco with his whole group sitting there too.
yes he got level 7. I did too when I played for Nuñez, Javier Conde, Antonio Rey, etc., in 2006. My best memory was playing Trafalgar with Gerardo at the dinner table with Carmen Linares, she seemed to really like it. Cepillo told me he never played after a concert like that, so that was special.
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So even Paco felt some slight nervous energy at times, but for slightly other reasons (the pressure of being the best and always having to surprise and deliver the best)
Not "at times", ALL the time! He admitted to smoking weed like almost every show or he could not play, feeling out of sorts without the petroleum, and backstage insider info, he kept his right hand in a plastic bag to keep it humid before the show. As I said, it is all psychological.
RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to Arash)
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ORIGINAL: Arash
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
7. Playing in front of a respected Maestro, who you sense is also feeling uncomfortable at sitting through your mediocre execution and therefore squirming in their chair, is HORRIFIC.
I think our Member Bulerias2005 (Daniel Volovets) still holds the record for most "horrific", when he played for Paco with his whole group sitting there too. I would poop my pants.
Oh man, this really entered the zeitgeist, huh? Haha. I have to say, I basically dissociated when I was playing. I don't remember any emotions at all. But I can't watch the video because it literally elevates my heart rate and gets me sweating.
I had a much less dissociative time playing for/with Yamandu when he was here in Minneapolis. I played a piece I had composed in dedication to him like a year prior, never thought I'd have the chance to actually play for him, and then proceeded to join a super fun jam session with him and others the day before a concert he gave here. Yamandu is supremely down-to-earth and cool.
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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to Bulerias2005)
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ORIGINAL: Bulerias2005
I basically dissociated when I was playing. I don't remember any emotions at all. But I can't watch the video because it literally elevates my heart rate and gets me sweating.
Dissociation and fleeing to another dimension and a parallel universe, is probably the only wise way the brain deals with Paco watching one play I guess.
A very rare thread about Paco that I had no comment on.
It's never too late. You can make it up to us by necroposting in it, with an analysis of the plastic bag and it's advantage over a sock or a glove for Paco
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RE: Rycardo Moreno is really unique... (in reply to Arash)
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It's never too late. You can make it up to us by necroposting in it, with an analysis of the plastic bag and it's advantage over a sock or a glove for Paco
Well during the Renaissance the Vihuelists used a goat skin wine sack.