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rafapak

 

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prepositioning fingers 

hi

is this true that when i play last note on a given string i dont have to preposition finger after i play this note because this string will not be used anymore ?
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Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: rafapak

hi

is this true that when i play last note on a given string i dont have to preposition finger after i play this note because this string will not be used anymore ?


You don’t preposition a finger on strings you won’t be playing, correct. However, practice ascending scales, not descending ones, for developing speed and control of planting.

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why ascending scales are more important for developing good picado when compared to descending scales ?
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Ricardo

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why ascending scales are more important for developing good picado when compared to descending scales ?


Because the fingers attack the string from underneath the strings, there are far too many caveats, tricks, cheats, exceptions to the rules, etc, that apply to decending scales or arpegios that simply DO NOT apply to the ascending situation. You can slide down the stairs but there is only one way to go up them. Students too smart for their own good constantly point out all the above without realizing the deeper REASONS for doing a simple thing.

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RE: prepositioning fingers (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: rafapak

why ascending scales are more important for developing good picado when compared to descending scales ?


Because the fingers attack the string from underneath the strings, there are far too many caveats, tricks, cheats, exceptions to the rules, etc, that apply to decending scales or arpegios that simply DO NOT apply to the ascending situation. You can slide down the stairs but there is only one way to go up them. Students too smart for their own good constantly point out all the above without realizing the deeper REASONS for doing a simple thing.


so ascending to me means notes getting higher.
descending is getting lower.

but an ascending scale goes down away from you to the high e
and descending goes up towards you to the low E.

so ascending scale youd be attcking the next string from above no??

is this all wrong?
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Ricardo

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so ascending scale youd be attcking the next string from above no??


Unless everyone has gone crazy this is about picado. As in apoyando with your fingers. Every damn note is played from below the string you are playing. PULGAR is the opposite…from above.

Ascending:ABCDEFGA
Descending: AGFEDCBA

Can’t get more clear than that.

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so ascending to me means notes getting higher.
descending is getting lower.

but an ascending scale goes down away from you to the high e
and descending goes up towards you to the low E.

so ascending scale youd be attcking the next string from above no??

is this all wrong?

Everything is correct. Attacking the next string from above down to the ground.

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Stu

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Every damn note is played from below the string you are playing


Jee no need for the cursin! hehe.

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why ascending scales are more important for developing good picado when compared to descending scales ?


Because the fingers attack the string from underneath the strings


this read slightly differently sounds like you were saying that the fingers attack string from underneath when you are practicing descending scales (exclusively). which is what confused me.

I then thought the only possible thing you could mean is that you were talking about where the fingers APPROACH from. hence my attempt for clarity. a simple miss understanding damn it!
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Ricardo

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Everything is correct. Attacking the next string from above down to the ground.


Last I checked the ground is BELOW my guitar and the sky is ABOVE it.

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kitarist

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Everything is correct. Attacking the next string from above down to the ground.


Last I checked the ground is BELOW my guitar and the sky is ABOVE it.


I guess he plays guitar lying on his back

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