guitarists who play flamenco guitars with a pick

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rafapak

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guitarists who play flamenco guitars...

hi guys

can you name few guitarists who play flamenco guitars with a pick but not necessarily play flamenco style of music ? i know about strunz and farah and al di meola. can you give more names ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 20 2023 22:49:10

xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

Flamingo guitarists do ("nouveau flamenco"), the one name that comes to mind is Armik, but there are surely some more like that.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2023 13:34:01

RobF

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

All you’re really asking is who plays nylon stringed guitars with a pick. That it’s not so common might point to the combination not being as effective as others, and the distinction provided by the “flamenco guitar” subset is probably irrelevant. But not to make my answer a total loss, I think Joe Pass and some of the older jazz guys did that (nylon strings, that is). Willie Nelson would be another example, although I’m not 100% sure if he used a pick.

It’s kind of a niche application, though. It’s probably done a lot on recordings where they are looking for that specific sound or for a ‘Spanish’ flavour or the like but it isn’t mainstream with soloists that I’m aware of.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2023 14:56:09

silddx

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to RobF)

John McLaughlin

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Ricardo

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

ToddK had the best hybrid technique for it, but he was going for proper flamenco sound. He actually cut a groove into the pick to get a pulgar and nail sound. He moved from a bent wrist like Django style players, this allowed him to make “rest strokes” on down pick movements. He changed his technique to proper finger style around 2006 or so.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2023 18:01:19

rafapak

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

what was Todds surname ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2023 21:35:37

xirdneH_imiJ

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 22 2023 1:08:19

AndresK

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

Just wow! Thank God I did not see this 20 years ago when I switched exclusively to fingers after 8 years of doing both pick and fingers on electric and acoustic guitars. I would have never got to studying only fingers if I knew how good someone can get with this hybrid thing. Amazing video. Thanks.

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devilhand

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to AndresK)

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Just wow!

The problem with a pick is the music doesn't sound as if another person were playing in the background. Anyways what about playing cascading flamenco arpegio with a pick? Anyone mastered it or anyone seen someone doing it with ease?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 22 2023 12:47:29

Ricardo

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

This was sent to me by Brune:

He changed out his nylon for steel obviously. But it is a classical guitar none the less.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 22 2023 14:17:10

RobF

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

I don’t really know their music but Rodrigo of Rodrigo y Gabriela uses a pick.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 23 2023 2:22:29

machopicasso

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

Rycardo Moreno plays with a pick in the first minute of this video (before putting it down to use pulgar). I've never seen him use it when playing flamenco.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 23 2023 3:48:49

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 23 2023 15:59:49

AndresK

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

He uses a pick at 21:50.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2023 7:26:05

Santiago

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to rafapak)

Raphael Fays, the gypsy from France!!

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Morante

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to AndresK)

Don't forget Eric Clapton, though he sold his Gerundino

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 2 2023 16:35:58

Ricardo

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RE: guitarists who play flamenco gui... (in reply to Morante)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

Don't forget Eric Clapton, though he sold his Gerundino

He had an Alvarez guitar that sold at auction for like $250,000 that at the time of print of the Guitarreros de Madrid book, was the highest priced Spanish guitar in history. I wonder if it has since been surpassed.

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