Flamenco Techniques in other Latin music; Latin music that influenced flamenco

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joevidetto

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Flamenco Techniques in other Latin m...

I was wondering if you could recommend some music that is not flamenco but that uses flamenco techniques or has a strong flamenco influence or sound. I know that Columbianas and I think Guajiras were influenced from other Latin American music, but I'm not sure what particular genre and how to find other similar musical pieces in that genre.

Also - this is probably way off, but I've heard some Mexican Mariachi bands play some interesting music on nylon string guitar, and was wondering if there are pieces from Mexican folk music that flamenco guitar players might find fun and interesting.

Please share Youtube links, if possible.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2021 16:16:05

zendalex

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From: New York area

RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to joevidetto)

Check out Karai Guedes from Brazil. His 3 finger picado is insane. He is on youtube instagram and everywhere else.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2021 22:37:11

Fluknu

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to joevidetto)

I wanted to play the tune "Cucurrucucu paloma" this summer. Don't ask me why :)

I wanted to go for the original version from Pedro Infante. And in the process I discovered that it was based on the rythm Huapango. I don't know anything about this kinf of guitar ( Latino, Mariachi and so on), but I've had tremendous pleasure in learning this Huapango technique. In another thread it was said that they block the strings sometimes on an upstroke. This gave me a bit of a hard time at the beginning, but with time it's doable.

it's full of videos about huapango tutorial on youtube, but most of them talk and talk and talk :)
I finally found a good one, but can't find it anymore now.

Your question also makes me think about the Album of Paco with Ramon de Algecira, Hispanoamerica: It's full of amazing rythms if I recall well, and they play latin ameriac classics. Gonna listen to it again.

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La Jirafa

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to joevidetto)

I'd check this album out as it has all of the Argentine guitar standards on it and played very well by Roberto Lara.

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Piwin

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to Fluknu)

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I wanted to play the tune "Cucurrucucu paloma" this summer. Don't ask me why :)

There's only one good reason to learn that song: it's just a lot of fun to say "Cucurrucucu"

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to Piwin)

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

quote:

I wanted to play the tune "Cucurrucucu paloma" this summer. Don't ask me why :)

There's only one good reason to learn that song: it's just a lot of fun to say "Cucurrucucu"

There's at least one other good reason, for me at least. It was hugely popular on the juke boxes and radio in Texas, and a favorite song of a girl I met when I was 17.

The version most popular then was Miguel Aceves Mejia with the Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlan. When the flutes chimed in on the intro it was the cue for everyone in the bar to break out in their best Mexican coyote howls.

I don't remember the details, or where I read it, but some authority said that huapango is the Mexican version of peteneras. I had been familiar with both forms for decades, but never made the connection.

RNJ

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Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to La Jirafa)

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ORIGINAL: La Jirafa

I'd check this album out as it has all of the Argentine guitar standards on it and played very well by Roberto Lara.

Fifty years ago Argentinian music was popular among the small flamenco guitar community in Austin. We copped stuff off Atahualpa Yupanqui LPs. We got the notes okay, but only Atahualpa could play that way.

Working in Paris in the 1980s I fell in with some Argentinians. One night we went to hear Atahualpa, who had been living in Paris in political exile. Atahualpa was old, not as agile on the guitar as he once was, his voice rough, but he kept the large bar in spellbound silence for an hour and a half.

Afterward we went to one of the Argentinians' good sized apartment in Saint Germain. Atahualpa showed up, guitars, wine and cognac were brought out, and the jam session lasted until sunrise.

What a privilege...

RNJ

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chester

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to Piwin)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Piwin

quote:

I wanted to play the tune "Cucurrucucu paloma" this summer. Don't ask me why :)

There's only one good reason to learn that song: it's just a lot of fun to say "Cucurrucucu"

That song didn't have NEARLY enough cucurrucucus in it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 2 2021 5:03:35

Fluknu

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RE: Flamenco Techniques in other Lat... (in reply to joevidetto)

Beatifull version from Miguel Aceves Mejia.

As I see the popular request is high, here's a version by Franco Battiato. But don't be fooled.: he's a little genius. Really.