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ernandez R
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From: Alaska USA
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RE: My wood acquisition habit (in reply to estebanana)
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Stephen, Out of the three billets of WRC something like 28 sets of straight flawless grain, there is some variation of the grain spacing throughout the width, I tried taking a useful photo but no joy. The AYC was a different beast, took about three times as long to cut each slice, used a slightly improved version of my gravity feed system so really it just took a lot of time. By the time I had cut all the WRC and then the two back size billets of AYC the one blade was done. Going to see if it will cut the rib sized billets tomorrow. There are some inclusions on the grain here and there but I was just cutting, edge sealing, and stacking as Gerry made it clear this wood had a tendency to check as soon as it was unwrapped and to process it in a timely fashion. I'll give it a week or two to settle down then a quick pass through the drum sander to clean it and see how many good sets there are. Gerry said this wood was well aged and it should be usable soon but I'll need to ask him more about that. The shop smells amazing. Funny story, if you recall I had offered to send you some spruce I had that had been put up a few decades ago by a local homesteader, any way I needed to rip about three inches off the inside edge of the six foot long block. Well wouldn't you know it, I ripped the perfect grain side off the block and ruined the whole piece. I made a couple nice flamenco necks out of that flawless strip of Black spruce... The new bandsaw, 14" 1.75hp, works good, still feels like a decadent luxury but it is the tool for the job, my old craftsman never would have cut the AYC at 8 plus inches tall and it cut through the WRC like butter. The AYC would have liked a more agressive blade, less then the 3tpi, thicker then the .025, and more tooth set but this blade makes for a thin kerf and fine cut. Just have to be patient, if you get greedy the cut gets wonky. I dress one "side" of the billet then hot glue (not HHG) a plate of plywood to this side. Then I cut the bottom of the billet smooth, flip her over -90 degrees so the plate rides on a fence to the outside of the blade. This way any variation in the cut doesn't effect the next cut. I use a set of all-thread adjusters to push the fence in with each cut, unclamp, adjust by counting turns, then cut the next slice. Simple set of spring rollers hold the wood tight to the fence as it passes through. A line and a pulley draws the wood through the blade vie gravity, used a medium bottle Jack cause it was handy, just enough weight to keep the feed rate optimum. Wired up a shutoff switch too so I could do some chores whilst the machine was making noise and sawdust, set my phone timer for 15 minutes to start the next cut. HR
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Date Jul. 27 2021 1:45:22
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RobF
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RE: My wood acquisition habit (in reply to estebanana)
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If it makes you feel any better, here is the pile of mystery wood I bought. The mahogany and cherry on top wasn’t part of the deal, just the stuff with the green ends. The mystery part of the pile sits about two feet high and goes back about eight feet. I didn't measure, but to give an idea of the thickness, the mahogany boards sitting on top are 12/4. I wet a couple of boards that were cut in half length-wise to give an idea of the true hue of the wood. To give another idea of size, the boards I wet are about three feet long. No idea what it is, save that it’s from South America north of the Amazon, according to the person I bought it from. It has a lot of checking and I suspect the yield, guitar-wise, will be low. But bindings, headplates, possibly bridges(not sure on that one), chessboards, picture frames, cutting boards, if it’s not toxic, there’s lots can be done with it... I kind of wish I wouldn’t have bought it. I only have about $350 into the pile, so it’s not that big of a deal.
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Date Aug. 8 2021 20:26:49
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ernandez R
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RE: My wood acquisition habit (in reply to estebanana)
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Stephan, At least upside down you are on the right side of the car, or is that left... I'm starting to learn myself that the rough chunk of wood game is like a lottery. Buying a big bandsaw, 14 inch is big for my shop, to resaw was part of the winning equation, still..., not sure it will ever pay. Part of the journy I suppose and the magic, unfolding the wood into mirrored leaves has become a vary zen event for me. HR
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Date Aug. 9 2021 1:32:55
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estebanana
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RE: My wood acquisition habit (in reply to ernandez R)
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You still can get more value from cutting from planks, ultimately it’s a combination of buying from the boutique sellers, the whole sale sellers and you’re own hunting and resawing. There’s a tree a that grows here which is a lot like Acacia, I’m waiting to find one that’s been taken down. Three years ago I missed one in my own neighborhood that was three feet in diameter. They hauled it away and later told me about it. I saw the stump. If I luck into one of those … I had a guy in Maine who was looking for maple to cut for violin makers and I bought some nice pieces that made four guitars ( # 4 maple from him is on the bench now) but he also charged me for maple that had a big olive green mark and half his wood was no good for first quality Maple back and sides. So I had less confidence in him. Then I noticed he found what looked to be better logs, he was scouring rural Maine for logs in farmers barns. But he screwed me because he sold the top flight wood to cello makers and didn’t look at what he sent me. Just as I was about to trust him again I was going to give him some strict dictates for what I’d accept he wrote me a note on Facebook messenger- it said: “Not that you even care, but I’m unfriending you because you don’t like Bernie Sanders.” I wrote back and said, no I don’t care, but I was about to send you money for more maple. I was actually too nice because I never told him he sent me bogus green wood. I was going to politely send him a photo if it and say I appreciate your wood acquisition skill, but I’ll pay handsomely if you can send me clean planks without this pre-spalting discoloration. I still have some good maple, but not as much as I’d like. But these wood guys are so touchy about politics. I was merely pointing out that Bernie is a two time also ran, but I suppose I was rubbing it in because Jim Clyburn out maneuvered him and that was fantastically played politics.
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