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flyeogh

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Life returning to normal in Madrid? 
I'm surprised but great to see. Wonder if they'll keep to social distancing?

FLAMENCO MASTER CLASS - JOSE LUIS MONTON

El 16 de Junio se celebrará en Madrid, en Guitarras de Luthier, una Master Class de Guitarra Flamenca impartida por el prestigio Guitarrista flamenco José Luis Montón.

Modalidad: Asistentes activos (active participation Euros 100) / Oyentes (listeners Euros 50)
Horario: 10:00h - 14:00h
Lugar: Madrid, Guitarras de Luthier

Although this is well beyond my level I'd have loved to have been a passive oyente. I'm learning one of his falsetas de fandangos - just melodic magic

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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to flyeogh) 
cool. Im not familiar with his music at all.
I'm gonna change that today!

quote:

I'm learning one of his falsetas de fandangos - just melodic magic


that sound a like my cup of tea!
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Piwin

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to flyeogh) 
Well, we're still in phase 1. I seriously doubt we'll be in phase 3 by the 16th but it seems likely (fingers crossed) that we'll be in phase 2, which would mean that they could open at 40% capacity, right?

edit: if you like Monton, there's a short bit of bulerias on here for free:

http://flamencoweb.fr/spip.php?article289&lang=fr

(it's in French, but just scroll to the bottom of the page, and look for his name among the files. Pdf is tabs, and there's the sound file)

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flyeogh

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Piwin) 
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if you like Monton, there's a short bit of bulerias on here for free:


Thanks for that Piwin. He has a few bits of Bulerias lying around YouTube but I'm avoiding Bulerias until I've conquered Alegrias.

My problem with the Fandangos falseta de Monton is the chord x56576. I'm playing x55576 as a temporary fix but I hope I get there in the end out of respect to Sr Monton. It is the most melodic falseta I have heard that is within a light year of my hopes

As for 40% I'm guessing they can easily find space. The problem I imagine will be close inspection and demonstration of details. Who knows maybe they'll use cameras? As I said I'm surprised but I'd still be there if I had the chance. The next one is JOSE MARIA GALLARDO DEL REY at the end of the month. But that's a 5 day event at 250 Euros - 125Euros for passive attendance.

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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to flyeogh) 
Flyeogh do you have a link or title for that fandangos?
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flyeogh

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Stu) 
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Flyeogh do you have a link or title for that fandangos?


Sorry Stu. I just have a link to a tab and video within my course, and with copyright protection.

I had a good look but can't find that either JL Monton or Paco Costa have offered it anywhere for free. Paco just calls it "FAN MED FAL JL Montón" which isn't very helpful. Of course it may be his interpretation.

You can find the maestro on http://www.joseluismonton.com/ I had a look at his bulerias and Alegrias tutorials. Inspires me to practise more and one day maybe I can enjoy a lesson with him

I'll ask Paco next asesoria if it is public domain.

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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to flyeogh) 
Ah I see! No worries.
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mark indigo

 

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Stu) 
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cool. Im not familiar with his music at all.


I saw José Luis Montón in concert, picked up his first CD and went to an open workshop class with him (a good while ago now). If you haven't seen his youtube channel he is putting up tutorials for his more recent album "Solo Guitarra"



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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to mark indigo) 
Cheers Mark.
I had a little listen on Google play music. And wasnt sure I was listening to the right guy at first. I mean it doesn't really seem to be what I'd call flamenco. 😄 if that makes sense. Perhaps the albums on there are limited and only have more mainstream (??) tracks. I'll check that YouTube stuff though
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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Stu) 
Ah ok. so Ive browsed a bit on YouTube.

Every video I see seems to leave me feeling a bit confused.
I can't quite put my finger on it but....where is he in the spectrum of things? Kind of feels like one of those outsiders...Juan Martin et al.

Not trying to be rude about anyone, or hijack your thread flyeogh. Just curious about this guy and others like him who seem to veer off from what id perceive as flamenco into an alternate time line. (Dunno if any of that makes sense) 😄😄
(Jazzy hats and English track names on their discs etc)

I did find one vid of him on canal andalucia flamenco which seemed more....ermm... authentico

https://youtu.be/vJzaT7MLjGE.

Urgh.can't seem to imbed that video. Forgot how to do it
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flyeogh

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Stu) 
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or hijack your thread flyeogh.


No problem Stu. I only posted it to show activity as we come out of lock-down.

It was an odd coincidence that I had a fandangos falseta of his, and then I received from the guys in Madrid the master Class info.

But having looked around he does seem to have an odd niche.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to Stu) 
quote:

Ah ok. so Ive browsed a bit on YouTube.

Every video I see seems to leave me feeling a bit confused.
I can't quite put my finger on it but....where is he in the spectrum of things? Kind of feels like one of those outsiders...


really?

i think he's worked a lot with dance groups - Joaquin Grilo was on his first album, and yes, that's him, old one (more hair) por bulerias



Por solea, or "slowlea" - maybe the influence of playing for dance?



por tarantas (i think the hat is cuz he has less hair these days!)



Edit: he plays on a couple of Mayte Martin's albums and co-wrote "Intentalo Encontrar" with her.


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mt1007

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to flyeogh) 
Jose Luis knows all the fundamentals and can play traditional flamenco effortlessly but I think he has moved on. I've been studying with him for some years now. Guy is a bad ass. So far I've learned from him are his guajiras, farruca, and solea. They are beautiful pieces with very traditional motifs yet he will throw in some augmented chords/arpeggios, a lot of sus chords etc... leaving his sound open for harmonic interpretation, the list goes on... I would say he is an impressionist like Riqueni...
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Stu

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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to mt1007) 
interesting thanks mt1007.
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RE: Life returning to normal in Madrid? (in reply to mt1007) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: mt1007

Jose Luis knows all the fundamentals and can play traditional flamenco effortlessly but I think he has moved on. I've been studying with him for some years now. Guy is a bad ass. So far I've learned from him are his guajiras, farruca, and solea. They are beautiful pieces with very traditional motifs yet he will throw in some augmented chords/arpeggios, a lot of sus chords etc... leaving his sound open for harmonic interpretation, the list goes on... I would say he is an impressionist like Riqueni...


Good post and quite on point. He definitely brings and outside "aire" into his pieces. I really enjoy his playing.
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