Foro Flamenco


Posts Since Last Visit | Advanced Search | Home | Register | Login

Today's Posts | Inbox | Profile | Our Rules | Contact Admin | Log Out



Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.

Update cookies preferences




Women in the macho world of flamenco guitar   You are logged in as Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1] 2 3 4 5    >   >>
Login
Message<< Newer Topic  Older Topic >>
 
rombsix

Posts: 7931
Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon

Women in the macho world of flamenco... 



_____________________________

Ramzi

http://www.youtube.com/rombsix
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2017 4:59:58
 
Dudnote

Posts: 1805
Joined: Nov. 13 2007
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Olee las mujeres! It would be awesome to have a Lucia de Paco!!!

_____________________________

Ay compañerita de mi alma
tú ahora no me conoces.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2017 8:20:12
 
rombsix

Posts: 7931
Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Dudnote

quote:

Lucia de Paco




_____________________________

Ramzi

http://www.youtube.com/rombsix
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2017 13:54:11
 
JasonM

Posts: 2096
Joined: Dec. 8 2005
From: Baltimore

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Chicks should stick to playing the broom handle. But seriously,That's awesome! I hope the trend continues. Even in the US it's a surprise to see an accomplished instrumentalist. There are not that many of them for no good reason.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2017 16:09:48
 
Piwin

Posts: 3566
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

In that group of people interviewed, there's at least one who is a very decent pro player and there's one who just sucks.

_____________________________

"Anything you do can be fixed. What you cannot fix is the perfection of a blank page. What you cannot fix is that pristine, unsullied whiteness of a screen or a page with nothing on it—because there’s nothing there to fix."
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2017 17:01:05
 
rombsix

Posts: 7931
Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Piwin



_____________________________

Ramzi

http://www.youtube.com/rombsix
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2018 1:41:37
 
joselito_fletan

 

Posts: 187
Joined: Jan. 24 2017
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Graciously she became an anthropologist
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2018 7:12:44
 
Piwin

Posts: 3566
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Interesting stuff.
But if she played in a pena in Andalucia, I'm afraid she might cause riots: "my next piece is a tangos called 'midnight in Gibraltar'."

_____________________________

"Anything you do can be fixed. What you cannot fix is the perfection of a blank page. What you cannot fix is that pristine, unsullied whiteness of a screen or a page with nothing on it—because there’s nothing there to fix."
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2018 7:55:19
 
joselito_fletan

 

Posts: 187
Joined: Jan. 24 2017
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Piwin

quote:

Interesting stuff.
But if she played in a pena in Andalucia, I'm afraid she might cause riots: "my next piece is a tangos called 'midnight in Gibraltar'."


LOL
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2018 8:39:07
 
sartorius

Posts: 206
Joined: Mar. 7 2017
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

What guitar is the last woman playing at 3:15?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 10 2018 19:13:09
 
julianev

 

Posts: 78
Joined: Apr. 13 2015
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to sartorius

I think it's a Pedro Maldonado.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 10 2018 21:14:30
 
rombsix

Posts: 7931
Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to julianev

quote:

I think it's a Pedro Maldonado.




Looks like it...

_____________________________

Ramzi

http://www.youtube.com/rombsix
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 10 2018 21:58:32
 
bobbywest87

 

Posts: 14
Joined: Apr. 9 2017
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Two women in particular I really enjoy listening to for various reasons.




I find Belen's particularly interesting because she is in that raw stage of flamenco playing where she is transitioning from good to great. Usually on YouTube you'll see one side or the other, but she's right there. Keeping my eye on her and expecting big things.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2018 12:18:45
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

Unfortunately she passed away....

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2018 12:52:48
 
bobbywest87

 

Posts: 14
Joined: Apr. 9 2017
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

That is terribly sad news. Though I didn't know her it feels like such a huge loss. I am so thankful that someone was able to record her playing before she passed - she inspires me even more now.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2018 15:10:46
 
rombsix

Posts: 7931
Joined: Jan. 11 2006
From: Beirut, Lebanon

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to bobbywest87



_____________________________

Ramzi

http://www.youtube.com/rombsix
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 6 2018 0:46:35
 
estebanana

Posts: 9466
Joined: Oct. 16 2009
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

The only good one is Temo.

There are also a few videos I can't find at the moment that have some young Spanish women playing in penas that knock the this junk out. If I find them I'll post, but I've seen vidoe of women playingf or singers that kick ass.

I actually wish more women played flamenco professionanlly, guys are such dickheads to deal with.

_____________________________

https://www.stephenfaulkguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2018 15:02:07
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

quote:

I actually wish more women played flamenco professionanlly, guys are such dickheads to deal with.

Because women are famously easy to deal with???
We both suck, just in different ways.

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2018 16:07:35
 
Canastos

Posts: 9
Joined: Dec. 1 2015
From: Astudillo (Palencia) Spain.

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

https://www.flamencasporderecho.com/

_____________________________

Hoy la noche se viste de Corinto....
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2018 17:07:03
 
estebanana

Posts: 9466
Joined: Oct. 16 2009
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Leñador

quote:

Because women are famously easy to deal with???
We both suck, just in different ways.


I want to double the market really. Women always smell nicer when they visit the shop.

I've seen 13, 14 year olds testing and messing with the guitar and the girls go off and dance. That's cool, but I'd like to see more double and triple threat women where threat #1 is guitar. I'm fully supportive of this.

There are always wonky players who get didactic.....and the faux flamenco offshoots, that's fine too- at this point who cares to fight about. The idea that girls get the green light as teens to dance and are pushed away from the guitar by the culture, or boys, or anyone has to be spoken against. Young women should be actively told if they want to be first a flamenco guitarist then the field is open to them.

It's more then just looking at videos thinking a few women with guitars are a curiosity. Women playing has to be a regular part of flamenco.

_____________________________

https://www.stephenfaulkguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 0:07:00
 
BarkellWH

Posts: 3467
Joined: Jul. 12 2009
From: Washington, DC

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to estebanana

I wonder if this thread would equally apply to "Women in the Macho World of Foroflamenco"? I don't think there are currently any women who are members of the Foro, and there haven't been for years. Is it because the Foro is "guitar-centric" (a recent topic that led to a thread on "Learning CANTE together")? Or are there other reasons?

Several years ago we had a few women who would contribute to the Foro. Foremost, in my opinion, was Kate. I'm not sure if Kate played guitar, but she was heavily involved with her husband in the flamenco scene in Granada. She had a wealth of information and wrote about everything from the flamencos she knew well to the Spanish Civil War. I always enjoyed Kate's comments and think the Foro is poorer for her absence.

There was another woman named Alyssa (sp?) who did play the guitar, but she dropped off the Foro years ago. There were a couple of others who seemed to have problems. One kept asking about a guitar she should get but would not listen to advice, and the other seemed to get upset anytime someone challenged her with a different point of view. Both seemed (dare I say it in today's hypersensitive world?) neurotic.

At any rate, I think the Foro would benefit by including women as members, but they don't seem to be attracted to it. Whether that is because few are into flamenco guitar or cante, or the almost complete lack of baile on the Foro, or because they shy away from the controversial, rough-and-tumble debates that occasionally occur is an open question.

Bill

_____________________________

And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."

--Rudyard Kipling
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 11:23:54
 
Piwin

Posts: 3566
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to estebanana

Not that many female flamenco guitar makers either.

_____________________________

"Anything you do can be fixed. What you cannot fix is the perfection of a blank page. What you cannot fix is that pristine, unsullied whiteness of a screen or a page with nothing on it—because there’s nothing there to fix."
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 13:29:08
 
BarkellWH

Posts: 3467
Joined: Jul. 12 2009
From: Washington, DC

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Piwin

quote:

Not that many female flamenco guitar makers either.


And not just flamenco guitars. Does anyone know of any female luthiers who make any type of guitar?

Bill

_____________________________

And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."

--Rudyard Kipling
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 14:12:39
 
Canastos

Posts: 9
Joined: Dec. 1 2015
From: Astudillo (Palencia) Spain.

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to BarkellWH

María Conde

http://www.condehermanos.com/maria-conde-termina-sus-primeras-guitarras/

_____________________________

Hoy la noche se viste de Corinto....
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 14:40:48
 
Piwin

Posts: 3566
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to BarkellWH

Off the top of my head, for flamenco there's:
Shelton and Farretta from the foro
Maria Conde
Ana Espinosa from the Baarslag workshop in Granada

Certainly not many.

_____________________________

"Anything you do can be fixed. What you cannot fix is the perfection of a blank page. What you cannot fix is that pristine, unsullied whiteness of a screen or a page with nothing on it—because there’s nothing there to fix."
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 14:47:40
 
estebanana

Posts: 9466
Joined: Oct. 16 2009
 

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix

There are many famous women makers now, but still mostly men are known. There are not that many Flamenco guitar makers in the world so it's a smaller scene.

Linda Manzer is probably the most famous woman in the guitar making scene.

_____________________________

https://www.stephenfaulkguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2018 20:18:32
 
Andy Culpepper

Posts: 3034
Joined: Mar. 30 2009
From: NY, USA

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to BarkellWH

quote:

And not just flamenco guitars. Does anyone know of any female luthiers who make any type of guitar?

Bill


Joshia de Jonge, Cyndy Burton, Amalia Ramirez.

_____________________________

Andy Culpepper, luthier
http://www.andyculpepper.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 16 2018 0:59:09
 
Andy Culpepper

Posts: 3034
Joined: Mar. 30 2009
From: NY, USA

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to rombsix



_____________________________

Andy Culpepper, luthier
http://www.andyculpepper.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 16 2018 1:02:05
 
BarkellWH

Posts: 3467
Joined: Jul. 12 2009
From: Washington, DC

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Andy Culpepper

Thanks to those who listed female luthiers. While they are still few in number, there are more than I would have thought. I had only heard of Amalia Ramirez but wasn't sure whether she was actually making guitars or had just taken over the business end.

Bill

_____________________________

And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."

--Rudyard Kipling
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 16 2018 10:48:57
 
JasonM

Posts: 2096
Joined: Dec. 8 2005
From: Baltimore

RE: Women in the macho world of flam... (in reply to Andy Culpepper




  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 16 2018 14:45:18
Page:   [1] 2 3 4 5    >   >>
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1] 2 3 4 5    >   >>
Jump to:

New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET

7.788086E-02 secs.