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Red_Label
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 RE: Petrucci online music library- IMSLP (in reply to estebanana)
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ORIGINAL: estebanana
I can't dream up any reason to dislike Bream, his tone color alone gets it for me.
I also like very much several of the modern lute players. In particular on vihuela Juan Carlos Ribera -an artist and teacher at the Sevilla Conservatory. He really gets the vihuela.
I don't have a problem with being open to many kinds of ways of playing that eras music. I find early music purists kind of a pain in the neck actually. And they all find themselves at some point a pain in each others' necks/ Early music purism involves a lot of neck pain.
1) Bream has always been my favorite classical player, over Segovia and Williams.
2) Over-the-top purists of ALL styles/genres drive me nuts and many are very off-putting. That is one of the reasons that I took such a long break from this site. I've played or dabbled in nearly all guitar styles over the years, and I've seen this militant purism in every single one. While I completely understand their zeal to preserve their favorite art form, many are so passionate that they allow no room for other ideas. Music is an art form. I used to be all about technical mastery and excellence. But as a grow older, I am more impressed by CREATIVITY... and in many cases this artistic creativity is received rather poorly by purists. So I find that some times, the views of purists are at-odds with the expansion and growth of the art form.
When I was young, I used to possess quite the ability of pencil drawing and acrylic painting. My works looked like photographs. I could reproduce the original scenes to the tee. I didn't understand "modern art" and thought of it only as a bunch of paint splashed on a canvas. Fast-forward 30 years... now I see the true ART in pictures that aren't just photographic reproductions of a scene. Now, for art to move me, it must paint a picture in a soulful way and not just a technical way.
Enough of my rant. I just wanted to state my case regarding a hardcore purists' desire to preserve their art, sometimes being so strong as to push new practitioners or fans away from it. Seinfeld's "Soup Nazi" springs to mind in some cases.
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Piwin
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RE: Petrucci online music library- IMSLP (in reply to Red_Label)
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and I've seen this militant purism in every single one
And it goes far beyond the realm of music or even art. I'd argue that you find that same type of "purism" in almost every walk of life. It says more about the beholder than about the art itself. The irony of it is that in most cases, the pure form that they cling to so much is itself a contemporary evolution of the traditional form they think they're defending. As far as flamenco is concerned, I see a distinct difference between those who prefer "older" flamenco sheerly for aesthetic reasons, and those who prefer that kind of flamenco only because it happens to be older. For the latter, it becomes rather disquieting when the "pure" art, folklore, lifestyle or whatever they're defending is in fact foreign to them. I've met people praising local Vietnamese farmers for their traditional form of agriculture when most of them just want enough money to buy a plower, I've met people praising the troglodyte gypsy habitat in Guadix or Sacromonte, when, at least for the latter, it seems that most of them preferred to stay elsewhere, in more modern housing, when they were relocated from that neighborhood after it was severely flooded, and I've heard people defend that particular folklore which is flamenco while quite a few younger gypsies who just want to mix it up with rap or other "modern" forms of music. Of course, all of these things can in fact be defended, but many do so for all the wrong reasons. It's paticularly bothersome when applied to a popular artform, as it seems to be nothing more than an attempt to introduce elitism in what was never meant to be elitist.
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Date Jan. 10 2017 15:55:22
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RE: Petrucci online music library- IMSLP (in reply to Paul Magnussen)
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now I see the true ART in pictures that aren't just photographic reproductions of a scene.
Perhaps you can explain it to the rest of us then 
In its most basic generalization, it's pure creativity versus pure technicality. Obviously, the true greats in most art forms are an optimal combination of both... especially in demanding genres like flamenco, classical, and jazz.
Another example that hits home with me is photography. I used to fancy myself a photographer. I bought nice gear, and a library of reference materials to learn how to use it to its potential. I educated myself to understand light and how to capture an image. But what I couldn't teach myself was how to see scenes in an interesting and compelling way. The vast majority of my output was uninspired and clinically sterile. I eventually referred to myself as a "snapshot-taker" or "picture-taker". My output was just pictures that chronicled a moment in time. They weren't moving in the least (at least the vast majority of them). I learned that being creative and seeing things in an interesting way (and capturing them), was VASTLY different from knowing how to take good pictures. The former seems like true ART, while the later seems just like a function.
My oldest daughter is becoming an accomplished musician, but she also loves doing graphic arts. Her paintings when I was her age (18)would have made me go "what is that???". But they really move me now. Sure, part of that is because I'm her parent. But the bigger part is because I look at them and go "how did you come up with that?" and "how did you see that?". And frankly, it moves and fascinates me (and makes me wish that I was that creative).
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