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I love the style of this guitarist with jessica canovas but does anyone know how he does his rasqueados in this tango. for example at 1.11 It doesnt seem to be the normal i up followed by m and i down or p up followed by m i down.??
Just to flesh out Dudnote's explanation a bit. It is called "Abanico" because in Spanish Abanico means "fan," and it is called that because of the fan-like movement of the right hand required to produce it.
Not nitpicking, Dudnote. Just wanted to elaborate.
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Abanico is indeed what he does at 1:11, however, this guitarist also does the non-thumb rasgueados "backwards". Starting with index, middle, ring, pinky rather than starting with pinky, ring, middle, and index.
thx guys ....I realised it was something like abanico but I could see the fingers going in different order. The back to front rasqueado explains it will try this.
Abanico is indeed what he does at 1:11, however, this guitarist also does the non-thumb rasgueados "backwards". Starting with index, middle, ring, pinky rather than starting with pinky, ring, middle, and index.
I didn't realise Ben did his rasgueados backwards!
I always thought something looked a little unusual in his videos, I wonder why he does them like that, especially since in that demo video his AMI sounds better to me than his IMA
ORIGINAL: BarkellWH Not nitpicking, Dudnote. Just wanted to elaborate.
It needed elaborating - I wrote that real fast.
Abanico fingerring, the 2 most common are p (up) am (down) p (down) [repeat] P (up) x (down) i (down) [repeat]
@12850bd Ramsi didn't mean the abanico was reversed, he was talikng about finger flicking (anchored thumb & wrist) rasgueado. Most people work pinky -> index, but some reverse and go index -> pinky.
As a complete side note, I came across a rare one recently in the garrotin of Paco Peña's book, p (down) i ( up) i(down) - weird!!
I thought I asked this earlier - I thought up a four stroke abanico I've not seen played elsewhere which works marvellous, does anyone else perform such a thing? It makes for very rapid 32nd notes - though I'm still building the facility, it is quite solid.
so...hum...when does it stop being a fan and more of a panicky octopus? seriously though, how do you define an "abanico"? to me it was just the 3-beat cycle with somewhere in there a thumb up and a thumb down and pretty much anything else for the other beat. I use p(up)amip(down) fairly often, or the old ai(down)p(up) but never really thought of them as abanicos (abanici????).
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so...hum...when does it stop being a fan and more of a panicky octopus? seriously though, how do you define an "abanico"? to me it was just the 3-beat cycle with somewhere in there a thumb up and a thumb down and pretty much anything else for the other beat. I use p(up)amip(down) fairly often, or the old ai(down)p(up) but never really thought of them as abanicos (abanici????).
Nah. This is defs a fan, no octopus - same mechanism as pmp / pci and plenty umpff on the upstroke.
I thought up a four stroke abanico I've not seen played elsewhere which works marvellous, does anyone else perform such a thing?
P up A down I down P down? Cano Roto players use this. El Viejin, Ramon Jimenez etc.. attributed to El Nani. I've seen players in Seville use it also.
I think when I develop it faster I will make it paip but in this video it is pcip ... I knew it must have been used elsewhere :( :) I already have a fairy quick Pmp but I think at speed this fan type four stroke will give me a lot of choice for longer passages. Cano roto eh. Thanks - I will try to find.
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will try this.
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