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I am just curious... Have any of you measured your 2 finger speed tapping on the table?
Yeah Grisha!, Of course it is many times faster than I can do on the guitar. That's why I think that doing anything "off" the guitar is really a waste of time.. Things like practising ragueado on a table top or practising on one of those silly little "silent" guitars. It's all about the complete feedback loop... the action, the feeling and the sound. Nothing else can duplicate that accurately IMO.
Really Ron? If you do it with the same control than you would have to do it on guitar?
My tapping on the table speed is more or less my picado speed on chromatic scales! But of course overall its still slow.
Regarding Rasguados its the same motion I think. Training it "in air" will help imho, coz there is no resistance, and especially when beginning with rasguados you can get easily injured due to the anatomic anused motion. Your "stroke" muscles are normally very weak compared to the "grab" muscles, and preparing it in air is usefull I think.
I remember, as a child I used to tap on the table, or hit one finger against the other in the air as fast as I could. I think, ultimately it lowers your reaction time. Of course, it is not a precise indication of your possible speed on the guitar, because it takes more than one movement to produce a sound on the instrument. But it can lower your reaction time. And you can approximate the real thing by moving your fingers slightly downward after tapping on the table. Try to do it fast and you'll feel weak. This exercise can train your muscles and increase your reaction.
I remember, as a child I used to tap on the table, or hit one finger against the other in the air as fast as I could. I think, ultimately it lowers your reaction time.
Hmm...remember everybody in this Forum will be copying you now! Everybody is looking for that "shortcut" LOL!
Grisha, I play on table tops and the side of my thigh when I'm bored...tapping out Flamenco rhythms...I think every Flamenco player does.. but I really think it is very different to actual technique on the guitar. I would doubt if that had much to do with your amazingly fast picado as opposed to a lot of very focussed study, analysis and practise on your own!
Well Grisha...I can't argue against that, simply because you can do it and I can't! But I still have my doubts.. I think it's hard to analyse oneself objectively... I think your ultra fast picado and general brilliance with the guitar comes down to very focussed and efficient practising along with that unquantifiable variable known as "personality"
I think it would be funny if everyone was going around tapping on the tables, but it was actually Grisha's little joke...and before you knew it, you could always tell the guitarists in any group because they're always nervously tapping the table ;)
I have the interesting problem: my 2-finger picado is much slower than scales and multi-string runs - I cannot go faster than 120 bpm on one string (for multi-string runs my max is 150 bpm). Any recommendations?
the most annoying thing about practice and exercises is that you never ever really know what worked and what didnt you can never trace it down to 1 thing.
like u may do a exercise that you think it was compleatly useless but infact it might have still helped you a litlle without you realizing.
then you might have an exercise u think helps but infact all it does it warms you up efficiantly and u can do fast picados more easy straight afterwoods but makes no great difference in the long run.
I thought so, but it was a little surprising because when I was practicing classical 3-finger tirando I had almost the same speed on one string. It was 10 years back though.
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