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Yes I use the common thing tabloid do to attract the basic instincts of human kind.
So now my question is how you found the guitar that you love so much and would dream to ask her hand and get along well all your lifetime?
I ask this because I think it has a special relation somehow like love relationship between some guitarist and their guitars.
I have more than love for the guitar as an object and it brings me frustration between realities of my budget and the so lovely and charming divas.
In France, that is pretty hard to find shops if you don't live in Paris that you can really let yourself dream among those voluptuous ladies.
I am an amateur and quite beginner and I wonder what are the chance to find a guitar that I really enjoy to play and progress with since at an adfordable price, I would say less than 1500€, you come accross the middle/high end of brands like Esteve, Camps or Alhambra the most common and easy to find guitars here but with chance I am sure we can find honnest and largely more charming and with caracter guitar from Luthier. Certainly not the best ever but with more charm than something made for massive production and suitable to a large scale of custumers like a "best of" that never give the taste or personnality of an authentic concept album.
So poor man must accept their desitiny and live in poor conditions life? Work days and nights like a slave getting no time to enjoy their beauty but having the pleasure to take out from their box once a month just to smell the fragrance of it's wood intimacy. Still the bags of old ladies (without violence, flamenco match with gentlemen ideals) or still a bank. Starting a charity quest?
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RE: how you found your partner (in reply to flamango)
As has been discussed, the place in Barcelona have been unloading master guitars from pro players for couple years now at decent prices(flamencoguitarsforsale.net) A guitar like that might be a little out of budget for many, but it's a LONG term investment like car, house, wife, etc...
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to Ricardo)
well... of corse there are some pearls out there.. guitars with history and caracter. but in my case my bank accout is the limit.. with family and two young kidz makes the desission quite easy. thats why i'm working on my own guitar. i'm happy to get help from a local luthier and i can use the workshop from a retired carpenter in my village.. they support me. in the last years i use to play the camps primera.. for a amateur like me it's a quite good instrument. but i'm happy to work on my new baby.. it's a wunderful experiance and day by day i get closer to the hole woodwork. so she's going to be my special peal.. inshallah
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to flamango)
I sometimes hang around that website flamencoguitarsforsale to dream like a child in front of canddies shop but I kept the same feeling as when I was child too with no poket money
What is frustrating for us, the one who are not living in Spain is abroad, that's pretty hard to hang around from one shop to another and get the chance to listen nice stuff.
About to built your own guitar, I have the same wish but for me that's more for fun and also to undertand and appreciate more lutherie than thining to reach a nirvana more than self satisfaction.
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to flamango)
My suggestion is to visit a big dealer of flamenco guitars and/or a couple of good guitar makers or a flamenco club to make direct comparison between good / expensive guitars. To compare directly 2 instruments by time is the easiest way to make the right choice. Even better if you can go with an experienced player or someone you can trust to discuss with. Once you have clear the kind of guitar you like (Blanca/Negra Old/New style, Madrid/Granada style) you can refine your target according to your budget. Difficult to find something very good for less than 3000$ anyway.
I know very well soldera flamenca ( flamencoguitarsforsale ) as my best friend is always in business with them. I suggest you anyway to be careful when buying used flamenco guitars, even if the seller is a shop.
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to flamango)
When I and my friend John founded the Peña Flamenca de Irlanda del Norte, I realised that I needed a decent guitar. I phoned Ray Mitchell in London, he phoned Rafael Romero ( the great cantaor) in Madrid. Rafael said the best was the student model from Conde Hermanos (these were the guitars from Pozuelo).
That summer, I took my holidays in Madrid and went to Gravina where I was attended by Faustino. He began to show me guitars. I rejected 5, until he offered one which was not badly made and sounded OK. It cost 15,000 ptas. At this point, he brought out a media luna, signed by himself. This was a monster, but cost 35,000 ptas. I did not have the money, so had to refuse it.
The student Conde was for several years the main guitar of the Peña. One day we heard of a Gerundino for sale in Dublin and went to see it, in a barrio muy conflictivo.
The guitar was sensational, but it had a cedar top, which I have never liked, the owner asked an astronomical amount of money and my beloved Conde in exchange, so we left.
But I was so struck by the Gerundino, that in the summer I went to his house in Almería and eventually persuaded him to sell me a guitar. This was and is the guitar of my dreams, now widely regarded as one of the best guitars in Cádiz and will never be for sale.
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
As has been discussed, the place in Barcelona have been unloading master guitars from pro players for couple years now at decent prices(flamencoguitarsforsale.net) A guitar like that might be a little out of budget for many, but it's a LONG term investment like car, house, wife, etc...
I like how many of the guitars are in what they call excellent and original condition despite being riddled with cracks!
RE: how you found your partner (in reply to flamango)
What's wrong with this thread Anders? It's about guitars so it is probably suited to this thread. Gerundino was visited in one reply and he was a Luthier! I know none of the builders on this forum has been mentioned yet but I don't see a reason why it has to be all about the builders here.
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