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Leñador

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

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What it meens busking?

Playing on the street, I think I spelled it wrong too lol

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Escribano

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

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What it meens busking?

Playing for money in the street and many cities ban amplification.

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

With amaximum 270 euros can find somebody better sound equipment (everything except the guitar and amplifier with battery ) mainly for play on the street??

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Escribano)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano
Playing for money in the street and many cities ban amplification.

Fortunately not in the UK...

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Escribano)

I know but no, where I will Play and Also need license and pay taxes

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

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ORIGINAL: trebol17
With a maximum 270 euros can find somebody better sound equipment (everything except the guitar and amplifier with battery) mainly for play on the street??

So now you have 270 euros left *after* buying the amp? Earlier on you had a maximum of 200 euros for pickup system + amp. I am confused.

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

Sorry,

everything except the guitar, the amp should be with battery.

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

270 euros

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Leñador)

Here is a video of some buskers in Barcelona. You will note they are plugging in their guitars direct into an AER Compact Mobile (I use one of these). This is a $1500+ amp, but I am not sure how much difference it makes playing in the street. What would make a big difference? Pretending you are enjoying yourself!

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Escribano

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

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Fortunately not in the UK...

They are under pressure to do so in Bath.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2015 20:55:18

Dudnote

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

This guy's picado technique freaks me out, what's with the flicking straight index? Any guess what he's doing? Seems to be i-a picado with i and a doing completely different strokes. And some triplet picados thrown in too.

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Ricardo

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Dudnote)

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This guy's picado technique freaks me out, what's with the flicking straight index? Any guess what he's doing? Seems to be i-a picado with i and a doing completely different strokes. And some triplet picados thrown in too.

the flicking is from no control over rest strokes. the pattern of triples produced via i, pull off,a, i-pull-a-i-pull etc. Some times a galloping ami is used. He's having fun, but nothing I would study technique wise.

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Ricardo)

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Some times a galloping ami is used. He's having fun

But how can you tell?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 13 2015 1:45:25

trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Leñador)

So now I know what is busking, these guys you can find them playing next to the catedral of Barcelona, the first time that I found them was 8 years ago and now they're still playing. Initially was another guy doing the solos, a guy who studied with Manuel Granados, so with musical education and great player. I meen this one

https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=svJSVfbdG6SvygOAmoCoAg&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXl9Yl5dMNXQ&ved=0CCgQtwIwAw&usg=AFQjCNGI1vPvWQBEHnRcAbDWcWjHoVoT7w

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

He was a gipsy from Rumania, also flamenco composer but was playing this type of music becouse it was easier to earn money with that.

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Leñador)

So, finally what type of micro can be recomendable for play on the street and record something at home with low quality about 100 euros? Please from thomann's web.

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Escribano)

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They are under pressure to do so in Bath.

Interesting, I was there not so long ago on a Saturday, certainly the most heavily busked city I have seen anywhere, everything from soloists with looping pedals to full bands on just about every street - and the local authority already licences it as you know. Not surprising that they are under pressure to reduce noise levels.

Elsewhere it is not quite so crazy, some local authorities licence it, many local authorities don't give a hoot, but its the first time I've heard the prospect of no amplification.

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to trebol17)

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ORIGINAL: trebol17
So, finally what type of micro can be recomendable for play on the street and record something at home with low quality about 100 euros? Please from thomann's web.

That's your problem, you are asking to do two entirely different things with a tiny and unrealistic budget.

As I already said above, I would recommend a pick up on the street, not a mic. If you insist on a mic, a dynamic mic might be better choice as its less sensitive as others have pointed out. However, you will need to practically glue it to the guitar to get a decent level (that's an exaggeration if you are using Google translate BTW) and even then will probably need a preamp to get decent levels, difficult to tell without giving it ago.

I haven't seen a dynamic clip on mic for guitar - maybe they exist who knows - but if not you need a mic stand as well . Shure SM57 is a great, inexpensive dynamic mic - 109 euros.

SM57 would work for recording, directly into your soundcard using the onboard mic preamp. The latter will give you the low quality you seek.

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Escribano

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

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and the local authority already licences it as you know

No licence required in Bath, just a code of practise which determines where they can busk and for how long, before moving on for someone else. We have our fair share of 'spanishy' guitarists in silly hats

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Escribano)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano
We have our fair share of 'spanishy' guitarists in silly hats

All the more reason for me not to busk there, too much competition

(..though unless its very sunny, I don't wear a hat.)

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trebol17

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

Man, finally I won't buy nothing I'll try to find calm street and that's it. It's so complicated to find something cheap Just to have louder sound and with my tyni budget looks impossible. So thanks by every opinión. I think that 15 days searching solution was enough.

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Blondie#2

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Ricardo)

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the flicking is from no control over rest strokes. the pattern of triples produced via i, pull off,a, i-pull-a-i-pull etc. Some times a galloping ami is used. He's having fun, but nothing I would study technique wise.

We (my duo) play Pharaon and we are out busking at a festival this weekend. I'm gonna steal that descending triplet ligado lick, but I'm not going to play it 94 times

Tonino's original lick is much more interesting though.

Lots of tension in that guy's right hand, apart from the overextending I, his hand locks up and becomes claw like in parts. Unfortunately I recognise those kind of problems all too well.

AERs rock, but they should dump the cheesy backing. No need for that with a duo.

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Please some advice (in reply to Blondie#2)

The reason I found that vid was because I am learning Pharaon and I was looking for extra licks to fill up the space. What I don't get about it (besides the bad stage presence, I mean you are being filmed, pretend you are having a good time), is why you need someone strumming if you are using overproduced backing tracks and you can't even hear the strummer.

Tonino's version is the best, IMO, but a little subtle. Some dude with a Selmer is jamming out on it in Dm and you might find some things to lift from there.

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