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q_at96

 

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Tempo for flamenco 
I am working through Dennis Koster's "Keys" and I have a question about what the tempo setting would be for flamenco styles "at full speed"? The text doesn't include these and I am looking for a benchmark range to work my way up to.

So what are the tempo ranges in bpm for:

Soleares
Farruca
Alegrias
Bulerias
Verdiales
Tangos
Tientos
Siguiriyas

Thanks for the help!
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 22 2014 17:37:31
 
Leñador

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RE: Tempo for flamenco (in reply to q_at96) 
Do you have the CD?? I don't know how'd you learn without it. The way he plays it on the CD is "full speed". Palos "in general" can vary in tempo tremendously depending on the context. IE solea for a cantor vs solea for baile.....

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 22 2014 21:42:07
 
rombsix

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RE: Tempo for flamenco (in reply to q_at96) 
Solea: Slow, approximately 70bpm 12/4 time signature accents on 3,6,8,10,12

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Solea por Bulerias: approximately 150bpm 12/4 time signature accents on 3,7,8,10,12

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Alegrias: approximately 150bpm 12/4 time signature accents on 3,7,8,10,12

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Bulerias: approximately 220bpm 12/4 time signature accents on 3,7,8,10,12 or 3,6,8,10,12 or 6,12

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Seguiriyas: various tempos, usually around 120bpm 12/4 time signature accents on 12,2,4,7,10

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Sevillanas: 170bpm approx 6/4 accents on 1,4,5

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Fandangos de Huelva: 170bpm approx 6/4 accents on 1,4,5

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Tangos: 150bpm approx 4/4 time signature accents on 2.5, 4

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Rumba: 200bpm approx 4/4 time signature accents on 2.5, 4

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Tientos: 100bpm approx 4/4 time signature accents on 4

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Taranto: 100bpm approx 4/4 time signature accents on 4

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Tangos de Malaga: 100bpm approx 4/4 time signature accents on 4

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Granaina, Malagueña, Fandango Grande, Taranta, Minera and Cartagenera are "libre" meaning that they are not in rhythm or are "free-rhythmic"

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hvymetal1234

 

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RE: Tempo for flamenco (in reply to q_at96) 
I think you can play good flamenco at slower tempos for some of those palos.

Solea 70-90
Alegrias 120-145
Farruca 70-140 (slow then speeds up)
Fandangos de Huelva sounds good 125-145
Buleria starts sounding good at 180
Tangos can be good slower too. 105-125
Sevillanas 125-145
Tientos 100
Siguriyas counts weird, if you count in 12 the tempo is rather fast, but I find it better to count other ways. The accents are still 12 3 6 8 10 but it starts on 8.

Don't worry too much about playing too fast. Play good solid flamenco and the speed will come.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2014 3:38:28
 
q_at96

 

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RE: Tempo for flamenco (in reply to q_at96) 
Thanks for the replies, this helps alot.

Have a great 2015 everyone!
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 5 2015 20:31:43
 
withinity

 

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RE: Tempo for flamenco (in reply to q_at96) 
On a side note , that was the first method I ever bought and I gotta say its pretty underwhelming from the bad production, low volume on the audio tracks to his playing in general. I recommend any other method above that one.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 6 2015 1:30:45
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