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Morante
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 RE: What has flamenco taught you? (in reply to Sr. Martins)
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When I became interested in flamenco, I decided that it would be necessary to learn Spanish. Went to classes in the evening and luckily found a teacher from Almería who taught, not only Spanish, but his love for his native land.
From Spanish I discoved Spain, a wonderful country with a thousand facets. When the opportunity arose, I came to live here, I live surrounded by flamenco, but it is not the most important thing in my life.
Here everything is bathed by sunshine and great food: flamenco is for minorities, even in Andalucía: here flamenco is el cante: a guitarrist who can play the repertorios of Paco and Vicente, but cannot accompany the cante, is dismissed.
Here there is great generosity of spirit.
Viva Andalusía y Caí de mis entrañas, cuanto te quiero, eres el más bonito del mundo entero
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Date Dec. 27 2014 19:00:15
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BarkellWH
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From: Washington, DC
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RE: What has flamenco taught you? (in reply to Sr. Martins)
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If there was no Paco & Vicente, flamenco would probably still be a regional thing. This forum would never exist, instead there would be a facebook page with 10 likes.
Without Paco it would not be as well known and wide spread as it is, but it would be as it is with or without Vicente. Even without Paco, flamenco would not be just a "regional thing." It certainly stopped being a regional art form with the popularity of Carlos Montoya and Sabicas in the '50s '60s and '70s. Say what you will about Carlos Montoya, he put flamenco on the map outside Spain. And, of course, Sabicas clinched it with real aficionados outside Spain.
This forum would exist for true aficionados of flamenco with or without either Paco or Vicente. For true aficionados, flamenco did not begin and end with Paco, much less with Vicente. For a true lover of flamenco, with all the great guitaristas and cantaores throughout the 20th century--Ramon Montoya, Nino Ricardo, Sabicas, Paco Cepero, El Chocolate, Nina de los Peines, Fosforito, and dozens of others--flamenco would be just as riveting. To say that Paco and Vicente are the only reasons this forum exists is to project a very narrow view of flamenco on to those aficionados who have a broader view of the genre.
Bill
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Date Dec. 27 2014 23:42:03
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Paul Magnussen
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Joined: Nov. 8 2010
From: London (living in the Bay Area)
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RE: What has flamenco taught you? (in reply to WGuitar)
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but what do you owe flamenco?
I owe it a lot.
In 1983 I went for the second time to Paco Peña’s festival in Córdoba. There was an older cordobés aficionado, who had known Paco since he was young; and he was looking desperately for a transcription of Mantilla de Feria. He asked Paco if he knew where to find it.
Paco didn’t, but he asked me if I knew. As it happened, I’d transcribed this, so I gave a copy to the old chap. He offered to pay me, but of course I refused, so he invited me to dinner.
He and his wife had two children, a boy of 16 and a girl of 11, who were learning guitar; but it was clear they’d been badly taught, so I helped them out. The parents invited me to stay with them the next year, and then every year after that. They said I’d become like a second son to them, so I started calling them Mamá and Papá.
Now the little girl is a mother with a boy and girl of her own, the boy is Professor of Guitar at the Córdoba Conservatory, and the family are still among my closest friends. They’ve added another dimension to my ife.
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