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RE: Moraito's guitar for sale
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RobJe
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RE: Moraito's guitar for sale (in reply to Escribano)
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Not on a technical guitar theme, but having met the very friendly and warm Moraito in London some years ago, and seeing him play in London and Jerez, I find it sad and poignant to see his guitar for sale, all alone like a lost, faithful dog. We get very attached to our guitars and I like to think each ding, scratch and stain on this particular guitar tell a very interesting story from its life. There is a nice Rito y Geografia video showing the teenage Moraito playing a Ramirez. By the time he came to London (still in his teens I think) for a small venue (ICA Theatre) gig with La Negra (daughter Lole Montoya providing palmas) he had a Conde. By then he had developed the familiar body posture, crouching over the guitar and bobbing up and down a bit with the rhythm. He played many different Condes over the years from the three different shops. What interests me is that he reverted to this 1964 guitar in later years. It was presumably acquired second-hand as he was only 8 years old when it was made. The well-known strutting pattern developed by Faustino and which has continued relatively unchanged, did not emerge until sometime later (1970s?) I like to think of Moraito, the party animal, enjoying this old style guitar so unlike some of the more modern heavy but microphone friendly beasts. You will find the young Moraito at 5.45 http://www.muzikkitabi.com/Video/VIDEOIDE0klwXak8F0/Rito-y-Geograf%C3%ADa-del-Cante-Flamenco---Ni%C3%B1os-Cantaores
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Date Dec. 5 2014 11:41:58
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gj Michelob
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RE: Moraito's guitar for sale (in reply to Escribano)
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I find it sad and poignant to see his guitar for sale, all alone like a lost, faithful dog. How true and how touching the analogy you chose to describe the point, Escribano. There are a few posts, from time to time, that stay with me, and am reminded of them when I change strings, make a mistake, fear to make one, and so on... I think I will see my guitar rather differently after your post, and I am sure I could never sell it.
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Date Dec. 5 2014 12:58:07
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estebanana
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RE: Moraito's guitar for sale (in reply to Andy Culpepper)
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Either way, it's still Moraito's guitar, probably his favorite one. You would own a big piece of flamenco history. It's not like it's his old toothbrush or something I would not mind having his old toothbrush, in fact if it would make me play better, I'd brush my teeth with it everyday. ______ 670 that is a long scale, it's awesome. I'm not making any more flamencos with short scales. I dislike them and never should have consented to make the shorter ones I have made. Lesson learned. For me 660 is really nice scale. Back in the old days I can imagine if a guitarmaker did not like making short scale or long scale guitars whatever reason suited their building style no one would question them. Today you have to justify everything you do and do talky talky to give reasons why. In the old days they just made guitars, than then players picked them out based on what they like. So many factors are at play in determining how a guitar feels it's difficult to say tension an feel is on scale alone. Todays builders are asked to do everything, like your website has drop down menus you can look at and check off a list of attributes your guitar will have. That's fine, but in some ways I think it is counterproductive in terms a guitar maker getting a style. Today we are expected to cater to any scale length a player wants, but really any scale length might not suit the way a certain builder actually builds; if you really follow your gut, which is really all you have after you get a grip on some basic theory, you gut might see how it is important to only do certain things. But customers will ask for things outside that range and you are expected to move with that even if it is counter to your natural instincts as a maker. Did players go to Gerundino and try to direct how he worked? Nope. See I think more and more as I get older that people best make things the way THEY make them, not the way others think they should be made for them. Scale is very personal for players and for makers. For every player that expresses a like or dislike of a scale length, I think makers have the same feelings and observations and preferences. But what a maker makes is driven by a market for players directing how they want the guitar to look and what scale it has. That was not always the case, and I think the old way is better, for guitar making.
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Date Dec. 5 2014 13:12:01
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estebanana
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RE: Moraito's guitar for sale (in reply to Cloth Ears)
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I arbitrarily set the line at 655, but that is just me. 660 seems long, but I've seen 660 to 670 as regular scale sizes on older Condes. I used 660 when I first began, actually I call it 26" then I switched to 655, then people began to ask for 650 and under. Now I want to use 660 again or 26" to 26 1/4". The one you have is probably 655, if I remember right. Last year a half I've been asked to do 650 a lot and I think players should try to use at least 655, my opinion of course. But my situation is that the Japanese market likes 640 and 650 classicals, so I'm working on that which I feel is different than flamencos. There is a lot of difference between 640 and 660. I suppose that after designing a smaller classical model and working it out I want to make bigger flamencos like the older Condes and de La Chicas, Gerudino's I like. Oh yeah, I like Conde's, just not new bright blaze orange ones.
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Date Dec. 6 2014 13:28:34
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