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athrane77

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From: Reykjavik

changing golpeador

the golpeador from my sanchis is very worn-out.
Is there a chance to change it without destroying the lack?
Or should I better bring that guitar to a luthier who knows what he does?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 3 2014 14:57:32

Morante

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

Removing a golpeador is usually quite easy: lighter fuel and a soft brush. Be sure to remove all solvent afterwards. This will not damage french Polish, though the Sachis is sprayed. Sticking on a new golpeador without bubbles is not quite so easy. If you have no experience, take it to a luthier or buy a few spare golpeadores for learning

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 3 2014 16:17:34

Anders Eliasson

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

Morante makes it sound so so easy to remove a golpeador, but remember to go VERY slow. Some days if its French Polish.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 3 2014 16:28:33

Ricardo

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jof

the golpeador from my sanchis is very worn-out.
Is there a chance to change it without destroying the lack?
Or should I better bring that guitar to a luthier who knows what he does?

if you are scared about bubbles when putting it on, use soapy water so you can manipulate the thing and position it perfectly. THen you have to use something the size of a bar of soap wrapped in a cloth to push out the water. You will see some silver streaks after you get most of the water out....those will dry out over time. You can keep pushing on it to help it dry out or just let it happen slow if you are in no rush about the looks.

I am curious of other methods that are safe if you only have one shot. I heard from someone two people can do it, one holding a ruler or straight edge. Anyone have a video (or can make one) just of sticking one on dry? (I need to change 6 that are long over due at this point).
Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 14:04:49

Tom Blackshear

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to Ricardo)

Ricardo,

If you are technically proficient removing the plates then I use LMI's white glue, mixed with a little distilled warm water, to glue the plate on the top.

I rough the top's surface with 400 sand paper, remembering not to go through the finish, especially if it has color. And then rough underneath the tap plate for better glue hold, A little surface roughing is fine.

I use a small veneer roller to push out the excess glue and air bubbles; cleaning the glue up from the roller and plate as I go. When most of the plate looks clear with no air bubbles, then I let it dry for a day or two, or until the entire plate looks clear.

And the next time you need to replace a tap plate, it will come off with a little heat from a light or moist rag localized, on the plate, with a little hot water. And then you clean all the glue off the top with a warm moist rag and start over.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 16:19:59

ngiorgio

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From: Florida, USA

RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

Here's an instructional on tap plate installation.

http://www.mundo-flamenco.com/en/infos/gluing-on-a-golpeador.html

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 16:33:06

Anders Eliasson

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

Thats a good tutorial.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 20:05:08

Ricardo

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Thats a good tutorial.

So you just use your thumb to stick it on and un roll the backing? The masking tape is a good idea I hadn't thought of.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 13:53:58

constructordeguitarras

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

I always get small bubbles when installing a new golpeador, and they always disappear within a week on their own, so I wouldn't worry about them. But removing a glopeador can be disastrous depending on the type of adhesive holding it on and the type of finish. So do be slow and careful about it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 2:31:09

Anders Eliasson

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RE: changing golpeador (in reply to athrane77)

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Thats a good tutorial.

So you just use your thumb to stick it on and un roll the backing? The masking tape is a good idea I hadn't thought of.

I´m not 100% sure I understand your question, but my way is very close to that on the tutorial. Positioning the tapplate at the bridge, and dragging and peeling the plastic thing away underneath while you slowly glue the tapplate with the thumb or another finger. Whatever finger suits you.
Be carefull with using masking tape on a French Polishe guitar. It may lift of some of the shellack. If you use tape, use one that doesnt stick to much and lift it away carefully.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 7:27:36