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revendel

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Identifying this wood

Struggling to play flamenco technique on a classical guitar so am thinking of buying this old piece from a friends basement. To my surprise, it seems like a flamenco guitar, remarkably light and quite low action. Label says its a Vincente Sanchiz, handmade in Spain.

I was wondering if someone could help me identify the wood on this guitar.

Also, would some filling wax work to fill in the dents? I've spent today fitting bone saddle and nut and a set of La Bella high tension strings.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 21:03:41

Stephen Eden

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

At first glance Sapele back and spruce top

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 21:11:39

revendel

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to Stephen Eden)

what wax filler would you recommend for the spruce top?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 21:20:41

Jim Kirby

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

Sapele possibly, or mahogany. Why are the dents a problem? What would you achieve by filling them?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 1:54:31

krichards

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

African mahogany on the back and spruce top

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 6:16:34

Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

This is a factory classical guitar with a tap plate on it.

here is a similar guitar sold at ebay
these type of guitars are not worth more than $100
That "Hand made in spain" is simply marketing BS

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vicente-Sanchis-Model-28-Spanish-Classical-Guitar-Hand-Made-Spain-/261031848097

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 6:54:57

revendel

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to Arash)

yikes, not worth it then, i'm settling for a new Almansa 413F, there goes a days worth of bone saddling work

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 16:52:29

Sr. Martins

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

If I remember well the Almansas are made by Alhambra.

Doing a quick search and looking at pics from the current 413 model, it looks like a classical guitar's bridge and the rosewood fretboard might not be to your taste after you get the guitar.

You can get an Alhambra 4F for less money and at least you get a nice ebony fretboard and a proper neck angle, bridge height, reliable tuners and QC.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 17:13:14

revendel

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to Sr. Martins)

argh, i already placed an order. do you think it's worth it cancelling? i got it for GBP 500 (818 USD), I see the 4F is at GBP 410. Dammet.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 19:55:54

Sr. Martins

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

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argh, i already placed an order. do you think it's worth it cancelling? i got it for GBP 500 (818 USD), I see the 4F is at GBP 410. Dammet.

I can say that both prices seem very high for the kind of guitar you're getting. You should be able to pick a 4F for 300GBP or less. The Almansa should cost even less in my opinion.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 4 2014 20:30:13

El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to revendel)

it looks like a cedar top to me...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 17:50:04

PeterLC

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to El Burro Flamencuro)

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...cedar top...

...I don't think so. Cedar has a narrower grain (just about always), looks darker and has much less of the silk-pattern we see here, despite this being a low-end guitar.

The looks of the bridge and tie-block also point towards a basic instrument. Could still sound nice enough, no doubt.

I also think Sapele for the body is a good guess. Mahogany looks more "even" in colour and structure.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 20:32:44

El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: Identifying this wood (in reply to PeterLC)

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..I don't think so. Cedar has a narrower grain (just about always)

ohh i see what you mean now. I can usually tell just by color but due to the light in the picture...i thought it looked more brown but the grain is a better judge.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 21:57:05