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Posts: 4530
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Sr. Martins)
Yes i believe you. But too late, i have the copyright now :)
Ok, just in case one of the protective members should show up and tell me i should grow up or something, here is a preemptive strike i designed together with Mr. Griffin, specially for them ...
This is a special design for a 7/8 student classical guitar which can also be used for flamenco.
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Posts: 2697
Joined: Jun. 7 2010
From: The South Ireland
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Arash)
If I was going to use the guitar as a weapon , i would go with a number 2 or your designs ..with that one i think i could catch a conde player no problem , damage his rasgueardo wrist and win the bout .....
pretty unbeatable ...unless you got one of these....thats what am talking 'bout
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RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
Woooow That was really encouraging!!!!!!
What happen to this forum!!!!
@ morante - what chip you mean!?!?
@ Arash - Jesus!!
@ Rui - Jesus!!
@ rogue - thank you , I used to look at Islamic or catholic buildings gates or entrance , too imagine a headstock
@ andy - thank you
@ beno - thank you
@ kiko - not sure what u are talking about
Guys I am really into guitars building, I start guitars repair, I would consider the post back from luthier , but some post I felt disrespectful to me.
I would love to discuss the post in luthierity and creativity way.
I know I added some lughing icons at the first post, but it didn't mean that i was jocking,
Posts: 4530
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
don't take this too serious man, no disrespect intended. sorry for the BS pictures. i should shift down a gear anyway, posting too much BS recently. i promise to be more sober, peace. time for another formal apology form.
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
quote:
I would love to discuss the post in luthierity and creativity way.
My comparison of headstocks with tombstones was meant to be serious. By convention (and to some extent constraint) they both have bilateral symmetry with the main scope for variation at one end. For anyone interested in design (and social history), burial grounds are good places to visit. If am staying for any length of time in place that I have not been to before, I usually visit a few graveyards with my camera. The pictures I posted were taken in Norfolk, UK.
Removing the convention for symmetry (there are examples in other kinds of guitar) would provide scope for a whole new range of designs. Of course if you are making a peghead you no longer have to have straight sides. You would have to ask yourself whether guitarists might be too conservative to buy a guitar which branched out significantly from the conventional appearance.
Incidentally there are other shared practical constraints. As a player I would not want a headstock with sharp and fragile looking projections like the ones in your design – I would not trust myself to avoid backing into a wall and snap bits off. Tombstones have a similar problem with frost damage.
My choice? I like simplicity, functionality and elegance – not easy to define, but I know what I like when I see it!
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
I find your examples with tombstones really amazing, Rob. As if these were exactly pegheads! Interesting to hear of your explanation about splinter. Sounds very plausible as background to practical design.
Aesthetically I really like the second stone. Somehow stylized and still within convention.
Ruphus
PS: Arash, when having time between googling up genitals could you please have a look at the paper sent and let me know whether you can translate it or not?
Just had another experience at the vet and can only emphasize how spreading some rational is really urgently needed if you care about preventing atrocity.
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
@Arash
quote:
don't take this too serious man, no disrespect intended. sorry for the BS pictures. i should shift down a gear anyway, posting too much BS recently. i promise to be more sober, peace. time for another formal apology form.
arash, nevermind, but I was shoked with the genitals drwaing, it is like you ask a frined of you about a drwaing and he show you this!!! looool , that is so insane joke mannn , still love you old persian friend
@RobJe
quote:
My comparison of headstocks with tombstones was meant to be serious. By convention (and to some extent constraint) they both have bilateral symmetry with the main scope for variation at one end. For anyone interested in design (and social history), burial grounds are good places to visit. If am staying for any length of time in place that I have not been to before, I usually visit a few graveyards with my camera. The pictures I posted were taken in Norfolk, UK.
Removing the convention for symmetry (there are examples in other kinds of guitar) would provide scope for a whole new range of designs. Of course if you are making a peghead you no longer have to have straight sides. You would have to ask yourself whether guitarists might be too conservative to buy a guitar which branched out significantly from the conventional appearance.
Incidentally there are other shared practical constraints. As a player I would not want a headstock with sharp and fragile looking projections like the ones in your design – I would not trust myself to avoid backing into a wall and snap bits off. Tombstones have a similar problem with frost damage.
My choice? I like simplicity, functionality and elegance – not easy to define, but I know what I like when I see it!
Rob
as I thank you before , I thank you again, but I find talking a shape of head stocke from a grave yeard is a little bit sad to me, i feel like darkness, this is how I feel, if i would build a guitar.
@Ruphus
I really like the headstock on your profile photo
I am fantasise by the flamenco gutiar head stock, I belive it gives a personality to the guitar, I really strong appearance head stock gives a strong charstracitis to the guitar, this is what i feel.
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
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some examples from Islamic gates
That's really interesting - though I think they are too complicated, and would divert the eye from the subtle flowing lines of the instrument. It had never occurred to me.
I suppose they are examples of designs using a reflection transformation if I remember my school maths aright. That leaves heads using a rotation, or a translation transformation to consider I guess. Whatever, simple is better for me.
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
quote:
That's really interesting - though I think they are too complicated, and would divert the eye from the subtle flowing lines of the instrument. It had never occurred to me.
I suppose they are examples of designs using a reflection transformation if I remember my school maths aright. That leaves heads using a rotation, or a translation transformation to consider I guess. Whatever, simple is better for me.
can you expalin more about this!!! that is really intersting
RE: head stock design from my imagin... (in reply to Haithamflamenco)
The very first guitar I built had an ornate head design. I remember being very excited trying to come up with something new. When I finished I realized just how time consuming it was and decided never to use it again so I changed it for something more elegant and refined. Here is a pic of that very first design.
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