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WHere and From Whom Did You Learn Flamenco? Can It be Done Online or Youtube/DVD if Necessary?
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Quill
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WHere and From Whom Did You Learn Fl...
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Well, I'm closer to finding a guitar (see other thread fro update) but finding a guitar teacher is weirdly difficult in my area. I'm about 90 miles from New Orleans, and my hometown of Baton Rouge is well known for blues and rock bands. Yet I could find only three teachers in the area, and all live pretty far from me, and it would take a lot of gas (petrol to you Europeans) to get there. None of them actually teach flamenco thoug some are willing to try. So, I have found a few actual flamenco teachers on Skype. Can a total guitar newbie, or in act anyone, learn flamenco via Skype? It seems to be my only option. I could try traditional music on a classical if Skype isn't a good idea, but Skype would be cheaper than driving to the other side of town. not to mention that I'd have an actual flamenco teacher to boot. So how did you learn? Teacher, picked it up from family or on the streets, Youtube VDS, or live teacher via Skype? Would any of you be willing to PM me about good teachers on Skype?
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Date Dec. 4 2013 4:44:51
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Erik van Goch
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RE: WHere and From Whom Did You Lear... (in reply to z6)
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quote:
ORIGINAL: z6 quote:
but for Paco Peña (for instance) EVERY compas of bulerias starts on beat 1 with 2 silenced beats. Again Erik; a million thanks for that. I have great ignorance but would it make sense for my foot to tap only the silent beats? Because it does that itself but stops when I 'look'. What's a remate? (Sorry) It's funny to realize that despite the world famous pulse "--3--6-8-10-12" it came as a complete surprise to me as well to discover that Paco plays every possible melodic pulse of Bulerias ON TOP of that INNERLY felt pulse (i only was told this fact last month). Obviously i knew that "in the old days" bulerias did indeed start on beat 1 (so did the falsetas, heading for beat 3) but over time the melodic start shifted to beat 12 more and more up to a point that for an outsider it might feel like the actual (or if you like alternative) beginning of the compas (my father thinks this shift into a long-long-short-short-short pulse actually is a regrettable form of globalization corrupting the once unique character of bulerias into a pulse practised by many cultures). At precent day many melodies in bulerias start on beat 12 rather then on beat 1 and personally i just go with the flow, feeling beat 12 as the actual start of the compas. I was very surprised to hear that Paco's inner compas does not go with the flow but that he still feels 1 as the start of the compas every single time. Paco believes one should be able to feel/execute multiple rhythmic lines simultaneously, so while his hands fallow the accents dictated by the music his INNER compas start every compas on beat 1 and his foot might produce yet another pulse :-). Unlike Paco i'm not able to feel the compas starting on 1 myself when the pulse start on 12, i simply go with the flow. Foot taping is a very personal thing. Personally i go with the flow, others favor a 2 beat pattern (even when the melody fallows a 3 beat pulse) and Paco de Lucia often taps the pulse **-**-**-**- (**3**6**9**12) which already comes close to tapping the "silenced beats" only. Like i said, it is possible to combine various ideas simultaneously and Paco drops all lines on top of feeling /1,2>3--6-8-10-12/. You can try it Paco's way or just embrace whatever works for you (like i do with mixed results). As remate is concerned, i'm no hero in knowing/using the official terms practiced by many others, but i believe remate can be seen as a kind of musical PS, adding an extra tail to a line that already has come to an end. So in stead of closing a musical chapter right away one adds an extra compas, often loaded with energy.
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Date Dec. 5 2013 20:19:34
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