Flamenco Metronome/Compas App for Android

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vigrond

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Flamenco Metronome/Compas App for An...

Wondering if anyone out there knows of any apps to help with Compas or Flamenco patterns?

If not, would anyone be willing to lend their palmas? I am a developer myself and would be interested in creating one if it didn't already exist.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 12 2011 6:46:43

HolyEvil

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

there's 3 actually.
Beatvibe, Doctor Compas, and another that I can't remember the name.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 12 2011 23:33:05

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to HolyEvil)

unfortunately those are only for Iphone -_-

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2011 1:29:11

jaggedsphere

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

quote:

I am a developer myself and would be interested in creating one if it didn't already exist.

Very cool. I work in IT and am starting to learn software development and have thought about this too!

Also, I am getting an Android phone soon and was wondering the very same thing.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2011 20:56:31

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to jaggedsphere)

All I need is a pair of hands. If someone is willing to record some palmas and cajon stuff for me to play with it would be great.

I would also create this to be compatible in both Android and Iphone, and take any requests for it seriously.

I would also like to offer it for free.

If I could get some samples, we can start putting some sound samples together. I think this would be the hardest part. Making the metronome and interface would be no problem.

If anyones interested you can contact me - devitt.cs@gmail.com

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2011 21:54:13

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

I'm going to start development of this project tonight. If anyone has any suggestions they ever wish they had in a metronome, now's the time to say it.

When it's done I'll be distributing a number of free copies for those who are interested here. (changed my mind about making it a free app, I'll be putting some cool social features in it that will make it a very valuable tool to have)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 21 2011 3:43:34

congusto

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Hi vigrond,
Although I don't have an Android phone (yet!), I wouldn't mind helping you out.

I own a Oscar Herrero metronome and I can convert those rhythms into .wav files. The rhythms are fully programmable with both cajon and/or palmas sounds. So if you want my help, tell me what you need and I will send you the .wav files.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2011 20:43:10

El Saare

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

anyone tried (flamencoroid) ??

it is free but sucks

...but handy outside home where there is no metronome

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2011 21:20:12

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

quote:

flamencoroid

Hi Congusto, thanks for the offer but for legal reasons I need to produce or own these sounds myself. I have found a few sources, but more are always welcome.

By the way I have been making some good progress on this new app, and I'll be giving some exciting updates within a couple weeks.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2011 21:58:46

El Saare

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

quote:

All I need is a pair of hands. If someone is willing to record some palmas and cajon stuff for me to play with it would be great.

I would also create this to be compatible in both Android and Iphone, and take any requests for it seriously.

I would also like to offer it for free.

If I could get some samples, we can start putting some sound samples together. I think this would be the hardest part. Making the metronome and interface would be no problem.

Sorry for misunderstanding why you are asking. I really appreciate your project, after understanding, I have asuggestion.

about interface, it will be helpful to render red beats for accents and to have generality size of the screen and the rest for the clock if you are going to render a clock...or to be adjustable in size, so the user can control his own interface.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2011 8:51:55

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

El Saare, thank for your suggestion. I will be implementing the clock and accent features. As far as adjustable in size, it will be at full screen. I don't think anyone would want it smaller than that, no? Is that what you meant?

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2011 19:40:49

El Saare

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Yes.. fullscrean

you know it's beter for mobile screens

I have another suggestion for that

- render a fullscreen rounded clock....and the red light for accents will appears in the centre of the circle...what do you think about this idea?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2011 20:44:05

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

I think it's a great idea to signal the beats, but a person needs to know which beat that accent was on. Therefore I think it would be best to give the accented beat a red color.

I am not so sure if a on/off light would be beneficial as one has to learn by ear and not by looking at a light turning off and on. Is that logical to assume?

I am trying to stay away from fancystuff and focusing on philosophizing how to best visualize flamenco patterns.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2011 23:37:34

cathulu

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Go easy on the visualization, that is not the most important part. In the end you have to use your ear to use the App.

Make a good metronome with good sounding palmas, cajon, maybe bass etc and in various compas patterns. Maybe allow the user to string x of type a and y of type b etc to add some variety, without intruding too much in Dr. Compas territory.

Sound will be the most important thing. Flashy graphics won't carry the app. A compas clock is more than enough.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 2:02:11

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to cathulu)

Thanks for your suggestions. I definitely agree, although I am not quite too sure on what you mean by intruding on Dr Compas.

Thank you

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 3:07:54

chester

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

vigrond,

no offense, but if you're not going to make this app free (or very cheap) you're not going to be able to compete with Dr. Compas.

Take a look - http://doctorcompas.com/English.html

This is your competition; Good sounds, clear interface, and the damn thing improvises!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 3:18:03

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Hi Chester. I am fully aware of my competition, thank you.

And as the thread implies, this is going to be initially provided for Android users.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 3:38:47

chester

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Oh for android? Why didn't you say so?

(sorry).

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 5:48:48

El Saare

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

It will be a nice app.... I am sure

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2011 18:08:42

trillo

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Check out this one that's called Ole Compas ... it's amazing!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mx.merlevede.olecompas

There's a demo version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mx.merlevede.olecompasdemo

And their website
http://www.merlevede.mx/olecompas/

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2013 4:50:21

Thomas

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to vigrond)

Hi vigrond,

I don't want to demotivate you, but I think these metronoms always sound stiff and mechanical...why not code an app similar to sony's acid loop program ?
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/acidpro

Just a simple looper that can work with mp3 files and let the user change the tempo of the loops....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2013 7:54:30

vigrond

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RE: Flamenco Metronome/Compas App fo... (in reply to Thomas)

quote:

Hi vigrond,

I don't want to demotivate you, but I think these metronoms always sound stiff and mechanical...why not code an app similar to sony's acid loop program ?
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/acidpro

Just a simple looper that can work with mp3 files and let the user change the tempo of the loops....

Hi Thomas,

This is a necro'd topic... but I'm still interested in the subject. Just been busy with school and a new job.

I completely agree with you about sounding stiff and mechanical. It would be nice if there was something out there to provide your own mp3s and 'share' your loops. Though there may be some legal implications to that.

-Robert

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2013 8:02:47