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estebanana

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Luthery creations non flamenco guitar

How about see some things luthiers make that are not flamencos guitars. We had Anders' violin thread, who else makes other instruments?

Here is bass bow I made a while back. It's a period bow copied from an original from the 1760-80 era.

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jstelzer

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

My grandson's ukulele .. made a while back.

Jim in La Pine

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Blair Russell

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Stephen how difficult is it to make a bow? They seem pretty complex.

I don't know much about bows but I'm guessing they are bent a bit and have to have a certain amount of tension to play correctly. I've seen videos on how they are made and they take a suprisingly long amount of time to make.

Here's a steel string guitar I made sometime last spring.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 20 2013 12:41:44

constructordeguitarras

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Very nice. Pernumbuco? Rosewood frog (?)?

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Jim Kirby

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Picture was way too big.

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jshelton5040

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to Jim Kirby)

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Entertainment center?

Nice job Jim. What is the wood? I'm guessing cherry.

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estebanana

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

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Very nice. Pernumbuco? Rosewood frog (?)?

That one is pernambuco.

I have a few baroque cello bows I have sketched out with stick and frogs the last few months, but my time is so focused on customer guitars I can't get to them.....but I hope my bow making "hobby" takes off later.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 0:31:16

jstelzer

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

John,

The top is Koa. B&S Claro Walnut from Oregon. Spanish cedar neck, ebony FB and EIR for head plate, bindings & bridge. The flame on the Koa is amazing when viewed at different light refraction angles. The depth of the grain will appear to be !/4" deep.

I love the appearance of Koa .. spectacular and at the same time warm.

Jim in La Pine

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 0:57:10

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Blair, its a nice Dreadnaught. Simple and very folky. How does it play?

Stephen when you make a bown do you base it on an already known pattern, do you work your own concept or is it a mix?

All this with bows is interesting, especially when you play with a bow. Then you find out how important the bow is. When I played classical, I had very good bows and a decent to good violin. I invested more money on bows than on the instrument. Bows are so personal.
Now that I started playing the violin, my first purchase was a cheap carbon fiber bow. Even though I hadnt played the violin for +20 years, I knew right away that I couldnt live with it. It was to heavy but still to soft, ugly and I didnt like it at all.
A few month later, I found an old bow. It was very worn, had a small hole near the frog from wear, had a newer, cheap frog, the stick had lost its bow and was a bit wobbly. The stick was hard and light and felt good. Its stamped Vuillaume (copy). It had unused hairs. I bought it for 40,-€
I have given live back to bo bows before, so I found a piece of leather to put over my legs in order to not get burned and started heating the stick ove the gas in my kitchen. Home alone, of course. Slow and easy, I started making the stick straight and later to give its bow back. . It came out really well. I gave it some shellack on the stick, repaired the hole and gave it a new wrapping and leather.
Its a really nice bow now. 53 grams (it´ll be a few grams more with silver wrapping), very french in its style. Its very fast and elegant but still with a good solid tone. Next time its going to be rehaired, I will buy it a decent frog.
Its not the bow to play Brahms violin concerto in front of an orchestra with composite core strings on the violin, but for what I play and intent to play, its really nice.
And it has a story.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 7:51:51

Wayne Brown

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Here is a steel string that I completed this past summer. B&S are of black walnut, neck of mahogany and bindings of curly maple. It went to my neice in Texas.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 14:37:15

Anders Eliasson

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Nice steelstringer and lucky niece.

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Wayne Brown

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Thanks Anders!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 17:17:08

Jim Kirby

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to jshelton5040)

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Entertainment center?

Nice job Jim. What is the wood? I'm guessing cherry.

Ha, good catch John - it was only there for a few minutes I thought. Yes, cherry. After a few years of guitars, I found it difficult to build something with straight lines.

For anyone wondering what this is about, the picture, while not a big file, was formatted such that it expanded the page width by about a factor of 3, which is super annoying.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2013 23:52:22

estebanana

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Rebuilding another oud....relined the bowl with strips of music paper like in the olden days.

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estebanana

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My grandson's ukulele .. made a while back.

I've built a few ukes, I found them to be almost as much work as a guitar, well not quite. The bindings on those little ones are hard to do.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2013 1:47:01

Blair Russell

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Stephen what happened to the oud that made it need rebuilding?

And thanks Anders, it was fun to play and I made it for fingerstyle guitarist. The trebles were more bell-like than most steel strings and had a even bass, I can't stand twangy guitars so I aimed for a thinner soundboard with much higher braces.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2013 15:16:20

El Burdo

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RE: Luthery creations non flamenco g... (in reply to estebanana)

Does anyone make Cejillas? I've made a couple of simple ones but found that a fair amount of torque was needed to keep them down on the strings, as I used a guitar string in a leather 'sling' attached to the tuning peg, and when they broke, there was a lot to do to replace the string.

So the two I made are in pieces waiting to be restrung...

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