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List is slowly growing, if you can think of anyone else that is not on the list, please let me know, this list was created incase you have all the obvious big names guitarists cds and are looking to try something different, and you wanna ask about the cd from users here who are not trying to sell you the cd.
Adam del Monte Adolfo Jimenez Agustin Carbonell Andres Batista Antón Jiménez Antonio Martínez Antonio Ruiz Kiko Carlos Heredia Carlos Montoya Carlos Piñana Chicuelo Daniel Cassares David Tavares Diego Del Gastor Eduardo Boller El Nino Josele El Viejin Emilio Maya Enrique de Melchor Erik Steen Eric Vaarzon Morel Faheme <------------- anyone got a audio sample of him ? Gerardo Nuñez Jason McGuire Javier Conde Javier Zamora Jean Batiste Marino Jeronimo Maya Jesús de Rosario Jose Antonio Rodríguez Jose Deluna Jose Luis Montón José Manuel León José Manuel Roldán Juan Antonio Suárez Juan Carlos Gomez Juan Carlos Romero Juan Carmona Juan Diego Juan Habichuela Juan Manuel Canizares Losadas Luis Winsberg Manitas de Platas Manolo Franco Manolo Sanlúcar Micho Miguel Angel Cortes Miguel Espinoza Miguel de la Bastide Moraito Chico Niño de Pura Nino Josele Nino Miguel Nino Ricardo Oscar Herrero Paco Cepero Paco Cortés Paco de Lucía Paco Del Gastor Paco Pena Paco Serrano Pascal Gallo Pedro Bacan Pedro Javier González Pedro Sierra Pedro Soler Pepe Habichuela Pepe Justicia Quique Paredes Rafael Riqueni Ramon Amador Ramon Jimenez Ramon Montoya Sabicas Tino Van der Sman Tito Alcado Tomatito Vicente Amigo Victor Monge Serranito
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Guest)
Florian doesn't go for that old Sabicas stuff...just old man's music Hey Florian you left out Pedro Bacan. Some quite nice stuff. (Well I think so anyway ) Also Paco Cortés.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Ron.M)
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Adam del Monte
I like his music, what ever it is.
I like Emilio Maya very much
Everyone else i respect ,i realize they are important figures in flamenco guitar, i just dont wanna pretend as if i like or understand they music when i dont just because of who they are. But your taste always changes, u never know when il do a full circle and discover that i like em.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Ron.M)
Ron, i must say i have never really paid proper attention to Bacan or Paco Cortés, how about a litlle sample of something good from them ? i can do the same with any guitarists u see on my list that you are curious about.
I dont think Sabicas is old mans music mate is litlle things that put togheder make into one big thing, eg: the guitar has come a long long way since him ( i realise he has his place in guitar history ) i know the scales he does and exactly what note they gonna finish on before he even does it, on a cd that i have never heard before, i dont know if that means anything to you , but i dont want to know what note someone does before he does it, i like to be surprised and taken places i never been before. Also, the recordings quality, when i listen to a flamenco guitar cd i want the hole experience,(i like the rich harmonic cristal sound guitar cds have today) if the recording is bad it dosent matter how good the music is , il listen once and il turn it off.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
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i like to be surprised and taken places i never been before.
Florian, I feel that way about practically everything I hear in Flamenco! Even Sabicas... I guess you could say I never really heard it fully the first time around. So as your knowledge grows, you hear things you never heard before. Does that make sense?
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Ron.M)
Yes Ron it makes sence, mibe you right mibe one day il put the cd on and just be blown away, i gues my knolodge has to grow alot more, i can only speak for how i feel and know atm.
I guess we all have our own jurneys to make and discover musicians on our own time , theres no use pretending that i understand or like something when i dont just because I should because he Sabicas.
Theres alot of Paco stuff i dont fully understand still, i am simply beeing true to my heart purely, if something dosent touch me personally well then it dosent.
Is what flamenco has always been about to me , no about keys, or sound, or tradition or non tradition, or compas or no compas just about how it makes me feel. And knowing how it makes me feel, is probably the only 1 think in the world I am a expert on :-)
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
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I guess we all have our own jurneys to make
On that, I would agree absolutely Florian. You can't play anything that doesn't make sense to you. Not with any heart, at least. I think you are a young and creative guitarist with a great imagination, but I think a year in Andalucia would do you the best good you've ever done yourself in your life. The things that turns me on in Flamenco is that "tightness" of rhythm, with the melody overlaid on top of it. Without that, it's not really Flamenco "puro" ( ) for me! Sure..I can't do that on the guitar, but I really respect those who can.
But without it...it's not Flamenco. At least to me.
You've had Simon's offer....get your Australian butt there! As Simon said, it's not a freebee holiday....just an opportunity if you wanna take it up. And if you want to stick around for a few months, you'll have to either bring money or find a job. Can't be worse than where you're at right now?
And there are, in Andalucia, muchas pretty Señoritas who could probably tap out a better Bulerias on your ass afterwards!
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Ricardo)
damn ofcourse i cant belive i missed Pepe Habichuela, i am sure that if u paid close attention theres alot i missed, but is probably just cause i dont have they'r albums.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Doitsujin)
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Hopefully this list might open the eyes of other users to some guitarists they might not otherwise think to try.
Someone might see a name they never heard off, and ask "hey Doitsujin, what's Tino Van der Sman like ? is it worth me getting his cd? what do you think?."
other then that no use at all
It has served me right allready, i have found 2 guitarists i like, i didnt know too much about before, hope it does the same for you, or someone else atlist.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
Hm.. yes. Its interesting to see which people made a flamenco cd wwho are often unknown. Sometimes when I hear samples from cds of unknown guitarrists Im suprised. So it could be that there are guitarrists who are better than Paco but nobody knows them coz they didnt make a cd or are not spanish or so. Ok. Lets put more people on the list.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
I've been listening to the CD that comes with Juan Martin's Solos Flamencos Vol 1, and I find it very inspiring. It's not a technical masterpiece, on the contrary the solos are very achievable. I almost didn't buy it after what I read about him on a yahoo group I'm a member of, something about him not being 'puro'. Anyway, goes to show you, it's difficult to debate matters of opinion as it is impossible to account for taste.
I'm glad to see Manitas made your list florian, as he was one of the first favorites of mine who has also been designated by some as not 'puro'.
A couple more I like, but may not be 'puro': Ottmar Jesse Cook
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
Guest. I am very glad to see that you made up your own mind on what you like and what you dont. I am all for formulating your own ideas and taste.
I am very very open minded and non traditional, but even i have my limits
Ottmar Jesse Cook
they not getting on my list ! I am not gonna start a debate on what they are or what they are not, they just not getting on my list !! and its my list !
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RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
Actually, I wish you took Manitas off there too, replaced by Tonino Baliardo, who actually plays flamenco in compas.
Honestly I am all for not BASHING any players, but putting these guys on a list of flamenco guitarists is like making a list of great Jazz horn players, and including Kenny G.
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
Cant belive i forghot Nino Ricardo
I have my own opinions too about who belongs on this list and who dosent just like i am sure everyone here does. This list started out just wanting to be guitarists that have solo albums out but now i think is becoming more of a flamenco guitarists list. There's some guitarists on the list i dont know eg.Faheme so i am taking other users word for it.
With Manitas i honeslty havent sat trough a hole track of his to have any intelligent idea on what he is or not, i have heard many pple say that he went off compas but someone here suggested him, and not having heard him i dont feel that i am qualified to suggest if he does or not.
Il leave that up to those of you that have :-) so take a vote if u want
HEHE i just tought of the biggest, grandest mother of all arguments, a thread that will keep us going for about 1 year, and that is to place ratings next to all of the names LOL. no1 would be the easyest, it will probably be the only place most of us will agree :-)
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
flo, don't forget Jose Maria Bandera! I know he doesn't have a solo go, but that's about the saddest truth in flamenco today. He is a crazy good player. Great improv chops too. I think he's better than Canizares. Those two are the only ones on the soil to be able to say "I studied with the deity, Paco, Francisco Sanchez, de Lucia".
RE: Let's have the most complete com... (in reply to Florian)
I'm not sure the guitarist's name, but he was the one that accompanied Chocolate in Saura's Flamenco. I think this person should be somewhere on the list.