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britguy
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From: Ontario, Canada
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 RE: who needs other palos than bulerias? (in reply to Doitsujin)
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Nah you are all wrong.
Its only
Bulerias. =))
Horse***t!
Sad to hear you say this Doit.
I always thought you were a much more traditional 'flamenco'.
Always felt Bulerias was very much a "blood andf thunder" show-off palo, for tocaores and bailores; and tourists. And lacking many of the more profound duende qualities of, for example; Soleares, Fandangos, Seguiriyas, Tientos, et al, etc. etc.
And that's not even including the lyrical qualities of the toques libres. . . .
"Its only Bulerias"?
How could you make such a statement in here, Doit?
For me, Bulerias is rhytmically exciting, challenging to play, generally played too fast for my taste, and popular for tourists. Personally I always thought it was much over-rated as a palo. But then, who the hell am I to comment? I don't even play Bulerias, because I never really liked it.
I think maybe your post was just a rhetorical question, ( como no)???
Maybe. . .
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Date Nov. 11 2012 21:49:17
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estebanana
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RE: who needs other palos than bulerias? (in reply to Doitsujin)
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And on this thread I side with Ricardo. I read this last night when I could not sleep between 4:30 and 7:30am.
Bulerias is the fiesta cante, and I love bulerias. I love festeros who mess with it and clown around while being serious. I'm remembering seeing El Mono and his comitragic thing. And Miguel Funi has this wonderful long cuple' por bulerias about Belmonte the bullfighter. I can listen to bulerias all night, almost.
There are different kinds of flamenco gatherings. Sometimes a meeting gets called because you need and thirst for getting down to business and it might not include a lot of bulerias for dancing and general participation. There are those times which I find myself more and more drawn to, and less and less able to find; a real small group of serious flamenco listeners who want solea, mainly, all night. And along with the solea, siguriyas, and fandangos grandes, the opposite of the Huelva variety, as great as they are.
And to keep everyone from slitting their collective wrists and bleeding into the beer, an Alegrias or cantinas to interleaf between the soleares. Then one of the capable people in the room will play a gutiar solo and since the mood is contemplative and the listeners are tuned up, a taranto or even buleria por taranto, and that leads into the singer working up a profound and solemn tientos; because tientos can almost be like solea in the right moment. Then things might drag a bit, the wine gets sipped the hour gets late, the guitar is sitting on a chair next to the table. The it really happens and someone raps compas from their knuckles on the table and the best solea of the night seeps out to give everyone what they needed.
Then if you are really lucky one of the singers leaves to take a whizz or snort some coke and decides the party needs a festero routine por buleria and proceeds to rip it up using golf loafers and cell phones as props while telling an outrageous drunk story. Then the bulerias to solea cycle begins again with a solea por buleria, which at that hour of the night might get really slow and leads to more solea sin guitar with the singers taking turns for fifteen minutes, which is how you end.
So I agree bulerias is all you ever need, except when you need solea. And you need solea much, much more if you know what is good for you. There's something about a small group of good listeners that stay with the flamenco for several hours and everyone becomes a bit fatigued and the players get more loose and don't stress. Sometimes something really magical and moving happens, and sometimes not.
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