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Graeme

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Joined: Apr. 2 2004
From: Lincoln, UK

Zen & L'Arte.

I recently acquired a 20Gb mp3-player (Creative Zen Touch) and have been loading my flamenco cd collection onto it. And of course it's great; so useful having them all in one place. ........but here's the clever bit: spend a day or two going through the tracks and assigning the mp3 "genre" to its specific flamenco form, such as "Flamenco/Bulerias", "Flamenco/Tarantas", etc. Once this is done (and you've had a nice sleep) you have an incredibly powerful reference/learning tool which allows you to play every example of a specific form in your collection at a moment's notice. Really powerful. Anyone else caught on to this?
Graeme

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Escribano

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Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

quote:

Anyone else caught on to this?

I have a Zen Micro but haven't tagged the files, only by artist and album. Good idea though.

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Mark2

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Joined: Jul. 12 2004
From: San Francisco

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

I've thought of that idea, but haven't sprung for the player yet. I'm waiting for a deal on a big capacity one. I have a lot of records.......I'd also like to upload all the guitar lessons I've taped. I've got jazz lessons from the 70's on and all the flamenco players I've studied with on cassete.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 17:36:56

frhout

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Joined: Apr. 28 2005
From: France

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

I bought a Zen 6 months ago, but it is only a 5Gb. I can probably store 100 albums, just for flamenco. That's enough for the time being, but I would have liked a 20 or even 60Gb for everything else other than flamenco.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 17:41:38

duende

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Joined: Dec. 15 2003
From: Sweden

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

Hell.. i get by with a 512mb. I don´t see why i nead more than 10 cds on there.

Ps. Must be a blast seeing Ron moving around the countryside with 10 Lps and a gramophone

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Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to duende)

Henrik, old chap...you think you are joking here, but actually last week I got my record player working again and dug out my old albums!
Full of scratches etc...but I love hearing stuff I haven't heard in ages!
I've been listening a lot to "El Camaron de La Isla..con el colaboracion de Paco de Lucia"
Great album!
I'm trying to work on a Paco alzapua/falseta that's been bugging me all my life....

cheers

Ron

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duende

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From: Sweden

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

"El Camaron de La Isla..con el colaboracion de Paco de Lucia"

Thats the best damn flamenco Paco has ever made!!! (for me anyway)

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And don't make it a race.
Enjoy the ray of sunshine that comes with every new step in knowledge.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 20:36:43

Florian

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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

i have something similar on my pc, i have about 200 flamenco albums, and a program that loads em all up in one screen , with cover, artist bio, track details eg. whos playing , whos doing palmas whos playing flute. I have done hours and hours of reserch on the web to get all the Bio's and albums details. I am 80 % done trough all the guitarists.

program has a artist database also , and i also have it set up so that when i play the audio it tells me if i have the tab for it or not.

is greate , it does search , so if i just type in , Tangos it will give me all the Tangos tracks I have on my pc in 2 seconds.

I have it organised in 4 main folders , Flamenco Guitar, Guitar & Cante, COMPAS, Light Flamenco

Heres an Example of what i get when i play 1 track from Jimenez:
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A los ninos que sufren Artist El Viejin Bitrate 160 kbps
Album Algo Que Decir Sample rate 44100 Hz
Year 1999 Duration 05:26
Genre Flamenco
Sub-genre Flamenco Modern Guitar
Personal rating ****

Location FLAMENCO\FLAMENCO GUITAR\El Viejin Algo Que Decir (1999)
Filename 06 - A los ninos que sufren.mp3

Artists on the track:

Paco de Lucía, El Viejín, Contrabass: Javier Colina, Violin: Bernardo Parrilla, Cello: José Luis Ruiz

Artist Bio

Name:José Jiménez Abadía
Birth: 1962 Madrid

"El Viejín's guitar playing is characterised by a knowing virtuosity, (that is) overwhelming". José Manuel Gamboa, flamencologist

He is currently one of the most talented guitarists. After cutting his teeth in flamenco tablaos, especially in the Corral de la Morería, he began to stand out in the accompaniment of singing and dancing, disciplines in which he worked for artists like Gabriel Moreno, Lola Greco, El Güito, Faíco, Ramírez and Antonio Canales.

El Viejín has also become renowned for composing the music for the staging of Antonio Canales' most successful choreographies, and for the documentary on female dancing, Flamenco Women, that was made by Mike Figgis. His skill has allowed him to work with other great figures of the Spanish guitar. Thus, Paco de Lucía called him up to substitute Juan Manuel Cañizares in his sextet during its tour in 1998.
1999
José Jiménez Abadía, El Viejín, lives in the Madrid district of Caño Roto, a surprising gipsy community where several guitarists have their homes (Felipe Maya and his son Jerónimo, El Entri and his brother Ramón Jiménez, etc.). He learned how to play the guitar for the first time at the age of three. He is the son of the great dancer El Toupé and his relationship with Flamenco dance doesn't finish there. El Viejín is one of the artists responsible for the evolution of music in modern Flamenco dance shows. He has collaborated with both Joaquín Cortés and Antonio Channels. British film director Mike Figgis ( "Leaving the Vegas,""One Night Stand") already knew this when he commissioned El Viejín to be the musical director of the outstanding documentary "Flamenco Women," shot in the Madrid dance academies, which focused on the learning of this fascinating art form.

Thanks to his work for dance shows the reputation of The Viejín grew and grew. He received critical acclaim for his contribution to the Nuevos Medios compilations "Los Jóvenes Flamencos" ( "A mi hijo Jonatan," in volume III, and "Amigos," together with Ramón Jimenez in volume IV) and everything led to being recruited by the great Paco de Lucía as second guitarist: the dream of any guitar player was thus fulfilled.

Algo Que Decir (Something That Say) is the first CD by El Viejín and has recorded it with great care and dedication. It is an album with a warm sound where El Viejín shows his prodigious and passionate technique. He has illustrious collaborators: Paco de Lucía, who accompanied him in the title "A los niños que sufren," also present is the young singer Montse Cortés, and, since dancers were mentioned earlier, nothing less that Antonio Channels and Juan Ramirez who contribute their masterful heel tapping. Guitarists Ramón Jiménez and Juan Carmona produced the album.

Artists on the Album

Singing: Montse Cortés
Flamenco guitar: Paco de Lucía, El Viejín
Electric bass: Carlos Bena
Contrabass: Javier Colina
Percussion: Chaboli, Juan Carmona, Ramón Jiménez
Palmas: Juan de Juan, Guadiana , Paquete, Antonio Canales, Ramón el Portugués , Luki Losada (1), Ramón Jiménez (1)
Arrangements: El Viejín
Dancing: Antonio Canales, Juan Ramírez
Cajon: Ramón Porrina, Luki Losada
Chekere: Chaboli
Violin: Bernardo Parrilla
Cello: José Luis Ruiz
Chekere: Chaboli

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Cool hm ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 20:38:38

Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

Btw have you ever seen so many big names on one cd before ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 20:45:17

Mark2

Posts: 1868
Joined: Jul. 12 2004
From: San Francisco

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

Florian-man you really have it together-it trips me out that you know if you have tabs- and the bios , etc.--well done! What is the program that organizes all this?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 22:35:22

Florian

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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Zen & L'Arte. (in reply to Graeme)

The program is called Music Library 1.9 u can find demos of it on the web.

Well for about 2 weeks i did nothing but database entry and research, is a litlle project of mine. To have my own complete flamenco Library, with everything about it.

Like i said right now I am only 80 % trough the guitarists, after that i have to do all the Cante cds, Compas, Light Flamenco stuff.

About year away from the most complete flamenco database.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2005 22:45:09