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RE: What is the top wood on this guitar?
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El Kiko
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RE: What is the top wood on this guitar? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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i see the page but it doesnt help much as it is just a list of abeto woods . It is really a type of fir tree, and of which there are different colours and types ( red , white etc) and sub types , turns up in Spanish wikipedia as abeto comun o abeto blanco in fact it seems to have a lot of sub groups and many names for the same thing I knew there were some but not as many as i see here , i copy this for names list .. Castellano: abete, abeto, abeto blanco, abeto-branco, abeto común, abeto de Escocia, abeto de hoja de tejo, abeto de hojas de tejo, abeto de Normandía, abeto noble, abeto pectinado, abeto plateado, abetuna, abetunas, picea, pinabete, pinabete común, pinavete, pino-abeto, sapino. Altoaragonés: abet, abete, abetina, abeto. Aragonés: abet, abete, abetuna, abetunas, abez, bet, pibet, pinabete. But anyway its basically a christmas tree,....... Also I read a cabinet maker writing about this wood Las maderas se diferencian por cinco caracteristicas: Color, veta, dureza, higroscopicidad (absorcion de humedad) y el costo Abeto y pino es la misma familia de las Coniferas (ramaje en forma conica), Abeto es un tipo o variedad de pino. Es muy usado como arbol de navidad. Como en casi todos los pinos lo hay blanco y lo hay rojo. El pino Abeto o cualquier otro, es de color blanco o rojo, de veta abundante y marcada, consistencia blanda, muy higroscopico, de bajo costo en relacion a otras maderas. La variedad de pino o Abeto rojo absorbe menos humedad que la variedad blanca, por que es aceitoso, mas resinoso. and so it goes on as he talks about how to polish it etc , but anyway all these trees are somewhat similar in terms of the type being pine/fir trees ,,, spruce, pine etc .......and different ones grow at different heights and regions ..... So the word pino abeto could and probably does refer to different types of tree depending on who is talking and where they are ,................ its still a christmas tree though .........
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El Kiko
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RE: What is the top wood on this guitar? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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that was my point the people calling things 'Spanish pine' or whatever are not botanists and hence do not have to be so correct ...so it will vary from region to region ...and evryone is correct ...where he lives .....all of these things you disscuss ar from the same family. Fir and pine trees are both conifers, have cones, and aremembers of the same plant family, Pinaceae, their plant group names are different. Fir trees are members of the genus Abies; whereas pine trees belong to Pinus. There are some subtle differences , like that pine trees have needles that grow on clusters and that fir trees needles grow on the tree, for example .. there are more than 100 types of pine tree, there are more differences to do with how and where they grow etc .anyway I am not a botanist either I just like trees and live in the country ... But here is something in English that may help ,,,... Spruce vs. fir vs. pine: How to tell them apart http://www.finegardening.com/plants/articles/spruce-fir-pine.aspx I still say christmas tree covers all ................
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El Kiko
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RE: What is the top wood on this guitar? (in reply to estebanana)
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Yes I see , I dont know as I have reached the far end of my tree knowledge ,... I just really assumed it was due to such a huge variety of coniferous trees that the ones that grew in Spain , and some other places were kind of nicknamed into Spanish pine , being of the pine type tree and native now to Spain ...thats all.... I thought Sitka (spruce ) was used in many guitars and other instruments as well , Im sure Ive heard of it in guitars ,,,, .but how it compares to others , like Engleman I dont know ... Yes , I knew the word sibilant ( but I looked it up again anyway so as to seem intelligent )., I came across it a while ago in an article about Harry Potter... .......Anyway in this context I wondered if it meant too trebley,or brilliant , for a classical guitar that is ,or maybe not used for a negra ,.....hissing being a treble sound ...
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