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Ricardo
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 RE: Beginner Books (in reply to AG)
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ORIGINAL: AG
Thanks for the advice. What I really wanted to know is if anyone tell me a bit more about Scott Tennant's "Pumping Nylon" and Christopher Parkening's "Guitar method, Vol 1 & 2 and what it covers. I'm looking for books that will teach me correct technique at this stage. That is with regard to sitting, holding the guitar, left hand, right hand etc. I've looked at the contents on Amazon, but it doesn't go into much detail.
Pumping nylon is good for most left hand techniques and also nail care, and some right hand technique. The problem is the end results are for achieving a more classcial tone....and sitting postion is also part of the goal. so long as you can keep that in mind it is a good book for just studying technical things. Staccato right hand runs for example apply just fine to flamenco, as to nail shapes and left hand legatos and tremolo (4 note not 5 note). But with arps, he describes "clawing" at the string is bad, but in fact we sort of do that in flamenco for the correct bite, attack, and speed. Pulgar is also quite different in flamenco. He touches on rasgueado but it's a joke compaired to what you should be working on.
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Date Apr. 26 2012 15:16:26
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El Kiko
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RE: Beginner Books (in reply to Ricardo)
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Interesting post Ricardo ......
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Pumping nylon is good for most left hand techniques
Sounds good
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problem is the end results are for achieving a more classcial tone
Ahhh I wouldnt want that ......
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so long as you can keep that in mind it is a good book for just studying technical things
Ah ha ... but is that good ??/ no ........yes ....???? 
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Staccato right hand runs for example apply just fine to flamenco
Now thats good ..at last ..........
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[But with arps, he describes "clawing" at the string is bad, but in fact we sort of do that in flamenco
So ...not good for flamenco ,,,,,,,or maybe yes .........yes I will go with yes..... its good ....
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Pulgar is also quite different in flamenco
Damn it ....so No ..not good , avoid at all costs ,,,,,,,,???
But there must be some something good that you are recommending in the end ....?
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He touches on rasgueado but it's a joke compaired to what you should be working on.
Ahhh ha ... OK I think I got it now ..........it's NO
AG asked ..can anyone recommend some flamenco books ..........
and as our expert you have completely destroyed a book by pointing out all its failures and yet this is the book you recommennd ? as an expert.......
I recommend that you can play and compose , but stay away from reccommending books ........
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Date Apr. 27 2012 18:35:19
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Ricardo
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I recommend that you can play and compose , but stay away from reccommending books ........
No man. If you notice I ignored all along the request to recommend ANY books....what was asked was if someone could give specifics ABOUT two books in question. I deliberatly ignored saying anything about Parkening cuz I dont' have it nor recommend a classical method book. I never recommened pumping nylon for flamenco, but it actually DOES have a couple of things that apply to flamenco technique....as I mentioned the related issues were NAILS!!!!!!!!!!
Let me say it again, he explains very well what flamenco players should do with NAIL SHAPE!!!!!! Next his left hand techniques apply just fine for flamenco players. That is two big POSITIVES regarding the book. The third very important issue is the staccato scales, as would apply to flamenco PICADO....his advice in this regard is totally sound and related to flamenco. Regardless if you are beginner or advanced already, this book can help you get on the right path regarding those 3 issues. The fourth positive is the tremolo which he approaches also stacato which will again force the player of flamenco to get a more secure plant when doing what we call "three finger picado" and such, but it is really just tremolo technique ami ami ami repeating on one string regardless if you change notes. The fact flamencos do an extra note for actual flamenco falestas (piami instead of pami as Scott demos) is a small difference and his ideas again are sound and apply.
He also talks about different forms of planting the Right hand fingers as applied to free stroke which includes arpegio....this also applies with the important distinction the the SOUND we try to achieve with arps is different for flamenco although the basic technique is the same. That is 5 major points that allow this book to be of some use to flamenco students. The negatives are the general direction toward a classical sound (sitting postion, wrist/arm orientation, the music examples are classical, the clawing at the strings thing I mention which ties in to the wrist and arm postion, and the rasgueados are not really what should be studied).
hope that is more clear. I want to take time to point out now that note reading type graduating exercises for classical guitar method are not good choices for flamenco beginners. I assumed that is what Parkenings method is, as are most methods for classical. Scott Tenants book is NOT a method book, rather it is focused on technique issues only. The music examples tend to be more advanced classical works, the musical exercises tend to be non musical chromatic things meant to focus on the fingers themelves.
Ricardo
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