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Pingaloka
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From: Granada, España
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 RE: Spanish Language in Andalusia (in reply to Harry)
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Hello Harry. Written spanish is the same all over the world as the rules concern spanish language as a whole. Spoken spanish is another issue.
You will find differences between the spanish spoken in Latin America and the one spoken in Spain. You will find differences at all levels. By that I mean that inside Latin America a Mexican for example will use different expressions than an Argentinian. Inside the same country, for example, in Spain, you will find differences between a guy from Madrid and a guy from Seville. And inside a region from Spain, like Andalucia, you will also find differences between how the speak in the West and how they speak in the East. How people from the coast speak and how people from the interior speak.
What I'm trying to point out is that gramma and written spanish is one thing and then spoken reality another...I don't think it really matters what you choose, until you come to Andalucia and start listening how people speak in the streets, in the bars, etc you wont get familar with the accent. Even spanish people that come from the north have some times difficulty understunding a very regional andalucian strong accent.
The closest accent to the Latin American spanish that we have in Spain is the one they speak in the Canary Islands, it is very similar to how they speak in Venezuela.
Personally I don't think that the spanish spoken in Andalucia is similar to the one in Latin America generally speaking. You may find it a bit more similar than how people from the North of Spain speak, definately, but is not that similar from my point of view.
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Date Feb. 11 2012 1:10:05
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El Kiko
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As to the spanish language it is divided up into different "languages the main one being ( what you need ) Castellano, this is used all over latin america. Andalu" is a regional dialect of Castellano , Everyone will understand this as many programs on TV are from South America anyway , mainly Telenovelas or Mexican stuff like "El Chavo del ocho " ..etc...
As to dialects there are many ,, just consider them as they are i your English world , so you have english spoken in the USA is a bit different to , Australia and New zealand , or Canada..also South Africa, and within England there are the dialects of different cities , north south , Scotland , Wales etc..
But communication is clear , I suppose ..
Anyway just stick to Castellano and you will be fine .
Se aprende Hablar , Hablando ..( One learns to speak , Speaking.)
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Date Feb. 11 2012 13:06:10
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Estevan
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Harry, you should also consider that not everyone you meet over there will be speaking heavy Andalú dialect. Also you may want to go to Madrid where lots of flamencos live and perform, and which is a great place in its own right.
From my own small experience of travelling in South America and Spain, I definitely recommend that - for your purposes - you study Spanish Spanish. Of course, as Pingaloka says, in different parts of Spain itself you will find different expressions for the same thing, but the differences (generally speaking) are greater between Spain and Latin America, so if you learn the Spanish style there will be less confusion and less to re-learn. It's not just a question of different vocabulary for a lot of ordinary items, but also an element of grammar. That is, the second person plural verb form is just not used in Latin America, but it is very common in Spain so it would make life easier for you if you learned it right from the start.
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Date Feb. 11 2012 16:30:48
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BarkellWH
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Harry,
You definitely want to learn Spanish that is spoken in Spain. There is not only a large difference between Spanish spoken in Spain and that spoken in Latin America, there is a large difference in Spanish spoken in different Latin American countries. For example, Spanish spoken in Argentina has different expressions, and a very different pronunciation in some cases, than that spoken in Colombia. Stick to Spanish as spoken in Spain and you will be just fine.
Cheers,
Bill
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Date Feb. 11 2012 16:58:48
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Paul Magnussen
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Yes, Latin American Spanish is quite a bit different from national Spanish, and you should definitely learn the latter if your purpose is to further your flamenco studies.
Destinos
In the US there is an excellent full-length video course that includes an exploration of the different national Spanish dialects: it's called Destinos. It's shown on Public Television occasionally, but my wife and I got it from the library and worked through it. It takes the form of a soap opera, starting with very simple Spanish and working up from there.
It seems to be hard to find on DVD now, although Amazon US lists it on VHS tape:
http://www.amazon.com/Destinos-Introduction-Spanish-Lessons-Tapes/dp/B000P54EVQ/ref=sr_1_74?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1329069697&sr=1-74
You might check your own library.
Learning mode
Another point is that you should figure out your own best learning mode: is it analytical or imitative, i.e. do you learn best by having the grammar and vocabulary explained to you, and then trying to synthesise them into sentences? Or do you prefer immersion and imitation? Depending on what your preference is, some courses may be wrong for you.
If you’re analytically inclined like me, I recommend the original version of Teach Yourself Spanish by N. Scarlyn Wilson, which you can pick up for a penny plus postage
http://www.amazon.ca/Teach-Yourself-Spanish-Scarlyn-Wilson/dp/0340058196/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329070165&sr=1-1.
Andalusian Spanish
A couple of obvious points:
• Almost nobody uses the Castillian lisp taught in foreign schools; you’ll feel a fool saying "Paco de Loo-thee-a" when everyone else is saying "Loo-see-a". So it’s best to drop that from the start.
• Speaking of dropping things: Andalusians are famous (as has been mentioned) for dropping consonants; so that (for instance) "Cádiz" becomes "Cai". It takes time to adjust to this.
Hope this helps.
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Date Feb. 12 2012 17:30:36
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