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what's up with the autographs?
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 RE: what's up with the autographs? (in reply to Rmn)
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I guess it can have different meanings. It can show that you respect an artist very much, it can be a memory from a memorable (haha) concert, it can be a way to say "thanks for the inspiration"... i dont see anything negative in that, it actually emotionally connects the object guitar to what you love doing, your guitar playing. (to smartass a little, lol)
Well, of course except in those cases where it is just meant to show off, thats just lame and means you were able to get an autograph, which is not really a big achievement. 
but hey, for me a guitar is really just a guitar. If there are some scribblings on it or not, i really dont care, i also dont think that autographs make the guitar ugly or so. But thats me, i can understand if someone thinks different in that regard. The only thing i dont like is when the guitar is used as a symbol of individuality of your art, like Willie Nelson does i think. The art of oneself should always be in the music, not in some objects like the guitar.
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Date Jan. 3 2012 10:43:54
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Rmn
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RE: what's up with the autographs? (in reply to Rmn)
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thanks for the explanation Ricardo. I did a search before on the forum with "autograph" but didn't find this thread.
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I am surprised being in Sevilla you have not picked up on the way gitanos are.
there aren't (m)any gitanos here really. all the gitanos i've seen performing were from lebrija, moron, cadiz or utrera. many gitanos in the cheap market at sunday across the river selling whatever they could and ripping you off, but these are from the villages and like house and trance music.
I'm quite in the middle of everything everyday, and having daily at least 10 (up to 24) hours of flamenco social interaction and haven't noticed many gitanos.
there is a bit of misunderstanding and romanticizing in my opinion about flamenco, gypsies etc.
the people that make flamenco possible in sevilla are really the people from outside it. these are the people that are interested and enjoy it the most.
you can really notice that in these times: zero flamenco. because sevillianos like sevillianas and zambombaz and the flamencos here right now are visiting their parents in: Chile, Israel, Valencia, Belgium, Poland, Germany, Catalonia, Madrid etc . even the dancers that have their schools here and stuff are mostly not from andalucia
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Date Jan. 3 2012 15:24:55
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RE: what's up with the autographs? (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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Picasso notoriously grabbed Manitas de Plata's guitar in a fit of enthusiasm and drew a mounted picador on it. One of my friends said, "Hell, if Manitas were a real flamenco, he would have socked Picasso in the jaw for messing up his guitar!"
There is a YouTube video, taken in 1968 or 1969, of Manitas de Plata playing for Bigitte Bardot (Key words: Manitas de Plata y Brigitte Bardot), who was his paramour at the time. (BB looks as cute and sexy as ever in the video, sucking on her finger, playing with her hair, and giving adoring looks to Manitas!) The guitar Manitas is playing has a couple of Matadors drawn on the upper bout and something on the lower bout that I cannot make out. I wonder if that is the guitar on which Picasso drew his picador? In any case, Manitas must have liked drawings on his guitar because there are several of them.
Guitar drawings and Manitas's flamenco ability aside, when I see that video and Brigitte Bardot's response to his playing, all I can think of is no girl ever looked at me and responded in that way!
Cheers,
Bill
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Date Jan. 4 2012 15:34:09
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