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Flamenco Scene in Portugal??
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Ramón
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From: La Jolla, Ca
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 Flamenco Scene in Portugal??
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I am a surfer, first, and a flamenco player a close second, but I HAVE to have my waves (those who surf will understand this passion), and I am thinking of relocating to the south or southwest corner of Portugal, where I'm only a couple of hours from Sevilla. I have an instructor there, and I know there's quite a bit of flamenco there, but I was wondering if the Portuguese have also picked up flamenco to any extent, or would I be just playing and studying alone until I head to Spain on weekends (unless the surf is going off!)...
Appreciate any thoughts of those who have even visited or spent time in that area; prices, rents, compares-to, etc.... THANKS!
Ramon
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Date Apr. 21 2005 15:47:21
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Ramón
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From: La Jolla, Ca
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RE: Flamenco Scene in Portugal?? (in reply to Escribano)
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Lol! Not enough surf there (often blocked), and mostly the wind blows onshore off the Moroccan coast. I've seen great surf shots there, but was told there are a lot of windmills in the area, which harness all that wind (unfortunately, the wrong direction).
I can always get to Spain and play on the weekends, by bus, but got spoiled growing up on the beaches of So Cal, walking to the surf. And here in La Jolla, and it's beautiful, but it's going downhill quickly, with $1.2M, 800 sq.' (80 sq M's...is that right?) beach shacks.
Friends of mine rave about Portugal and the surf, so I'm trying to find if there is a flamenco scene, and get the best of my two worlds!
Just thought I'd post and just get any info I could...
thanks again
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Date Apr. 21 2005 17:06:37
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RE: Flamenco Scene in Portugal?? (in reply to Ramón)
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Hola
Tarifa is a world home of windsurfing. The son on one of my girlfriends in Cádiz was a Spanish champion of surfing or sailboarding or similar. There is a lot of wind in Cadiz and when the Poniente blows, the tourists leave the beach and the surfers come out. Not 20 metre waves of course, but 20 metre flamenco. You sound like someone who wants a perfect wave, a perfect woman and perfect flamenco all at the same time. La vida no es así, picha!
Sean
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Date Apr. 21 2005 23:27:27
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Ramón
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From: La Jolla, Ca
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RE: Flamenco Scene in Portugal?? (in reply to Guest)
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Am appreciating all the input, but I assumed it would be as much. Live on the beach and drive for flamenco and spend weekends in Spain, and just practice alone at nights in Portugal (unless of course the perfect girl washes up to my doorstep), then practice after after.....
I have seen some incredible surf shots on wannasurf.com, but heard through a Spanish friend that some of those pics are not actually of those breaks! However, I'm headed over in the Fall to play, look at the scene, and decide what I want the most, put the biz up for sale, and go! No kids, no ex-wives, no baggage.
Love to play flamenco, but - if you surf - you'd understand how it is totally unlike anything else - but flamenco fills the night and my morning coffee is next to me as I play....
Just want to do all this under a different sky! Thank you all for helping. I really enjoy everyone's positive attitudes here!
R
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Date Apr. 22 2005 2:04:23
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RE: Flamenco Scene in Portugal?? (in reply to Ramón)
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Take notice of Sean. Tarifa is right on the mainland tip and a surfers paradise. I spent two weeks in Portugal and they don't like the Spaniards never mind flamenco. I saw or heard nothing at all that came near flamenco apart from a tourist dance show in one hotel near Loule. Mind you, the only thing I've ever surfed is the internet, but I've heard people rave about Tarifa. 
Best.
Jim.
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Date Apr. 22 2005 9:24:53
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Ramón
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RE: Flamenco Scene in Portugal?? (in reply to Ramón)
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Again, thanks to all for the input. And to those questions, I am a surfer. I windsurf a bit, but if that was what I did, the Costa de la Luna would be great, with all the wind, but surfers like no wind, or wind that blows from the land and grooms the waves.
And I tire of the crowds, attitudes, costs, traffic, density, etc., here in So Cal. I was raised on the beaches here, and love the Med' climate, but it's changed sooooo much here, so I thought I might find the best of both my worlds, there (but San Diego does have a really good flamenco scene, and it's really starting to get organized, too!). And I have so fallen in love with playing Flamenco, really want to absorb it, and hope to become a fairly strong player if I was immersed in it.
A funny interjection here.... A few months ago, my mom stopped by my house as I was practicing, and as we chatted, I started to do some rasqueo excercises. My mom says;
"I used to have a pretty good rasqueo..."
HUHWHAT!!?????????? "WHAT DID YOU SAY, MOM"??
" Yea, you remember when Nancy (her friend) came back from 7 years in Spain? She got into flamenco and taught me..."
ANDYOUDIDN'TTEACHMETHIS!!!??? She should have chained me to the bed with black bread and water, and today I'd be amazing! She had these old Carlos Montoya albums I used to listen to and LOVED, but I was like 6, and didn't make the connection at the time. Just a kid with a 6-secong attention span, so I never even remembered her playing the guitar. Such is life, huh? Now, if only she had bought some $300.00 Spanish guitars in 1962....
So I hope to get over there in the Fall and take a close, realistic look, both there and Spain, spend a month, and see what I see.
And I posted this for those of you in the Cali' area, but might as well add it here, too...
http://www.thebarclay.org/custom/events/event10.asp?eventID=539
Thanks everyone.
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Date Apr. 23 2005 21:30:28
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