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Can someone please give me an opinion on the books by Oscar Herrero “21 studies”-basic level and “24studies” –intermediate level? I have the Juan Martin’s books and also Paco Peña’s; perhaps the material covered by the studies is already present here. Thank you
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Date Apr. 15 2005 15:58:55
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Ramón
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From: La Jolla, Ca
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RE: O. Herrero books (in reply to Guest)
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I found Oscar on a web hunt, got his Paso a Paso #1. Then #2. Then #3, Now I'm on Solea' #1. I truly liked #3, where every drill and study was incorporated into a little Buleria OH had written. Very nice stuff, and THESE DVD's help set a foundation for understanding his books (still tough!) When one of my visiting flamenco instructors from Spain came back for a tour, I was 'warming up'. One of the other students was there, and the last time I saw him was 6 months before, at the last class. He said; "Wow! Someone's been practicing!" (actually, no more than before, but I was l-e-a-r-n-i-n-g). Although I 'played', without (weekly or so) proper instruction, it's hard to focus and improve. I went back to basics with OH, and there have been dramatic improvements in my ability - so much so, that I am now able to play for dancers a bit. I cannot tell you how cool it is to do this!!! What I AM seeking is a course dedicated to compas as it relates to singers and dancers, as that's where we're all headed, but the OH method is one of the very best for technique. Someone on one of these posts recommended a course, Merengue de Cordoba, but it's like $120 bucks!), so I'll look into that a bit later unless I can find one to borrow and see if I like it. As far as the books, with and without a CD? Even though I am familiar with his style and composition, books are STILL hard unless you are really good. I wished he would do for his books as he does for his Paso a Paso series. A DVD you watch, plays the piece at speed, then breaks the piece down into sections, slowly and clearly played. Even better, a split-screen, right and left hand... The KEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I cannot stress this enough, to good playing is to play s-l-o-w-l-y at first, until the piece picks up speed, almost on it's own, as your skill and familiarity progress. This is why a slowed down piece on DVD is so nice. You're more able to match the speed of that version, can take it section by section, and understand how it sounds slowed down, as many pieces sound quite different when they're not played 'at speed'. Oscar is WELL worth it, but I would do a DVD course before I plunged into the books - unless you're quite good and can easily take printed matter to magic. eBay has good deals. Look for 'drawbridge music' as a seller. He's fast, 100% on it, and generally sells for a worthwhile discount off of retail, unless you find someone selling used. Hope this helps! R
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Date Apr. 17 2005 15:23:28
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musicalgrant
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RE: O. Herrero books (in reply to Ron.M)
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when I asked Paco Peña during a lesson, "How does Paco de Lucia do that really fast picado?" Hi Ron Did you study with Paco Pena? Wow, sounds great. What was it like? I have heard he is a really nice bloke to learn with, so i was told by a Spanish guy in London. Is this true? As for teachers forcing their way of playing onto their pupils! It is rubbish, When i teach, if a pupil has his own way of doing a Rasguado and it works for him, then so be it. Who am i to tell them to do it my way! So many flamenco guitarists have been taught by their fathers, to do it in various ways and it works great for them. Diversity is the beauty of the Art Flamenco, each family has its own way of playing, and that is the beauty of it!! If we all went throught the classical guitar grading system, Do yoiu know what we would end up with? A load of Guitarists playing the same stuff !!!! How boring is that!!! And that is where flamenco is strong and diverse, each family has its own technique that produces its own sound, and hence no two guitarists sound the same. How can a GOOD flamenco guitar teacher say to his/her pupil this is how it is done and that is the only way? He would be producing clones of himself! Yuk!! double Yuk!!!! I love it when a pupil comes to me with his own method of playing flamenco, it is so refreshing, and a change from the pupil struggling to play like Paco de Lucia, Vincente Amigo etc.... Only PDL can play like PDL, like i said it is otherwise just a poor imitation of PDL or whoever! What is easy for him is not always easy for us. And what is easy for us is not always easy for him! I wish that we as strugglin guitarists would realise this, we each have a voice, and we ought to make the most of it. That is where pdl was strong. He had his own voice and that was what made his music so special. And it is up to the individual guitarist to realise this.....(self Belief) I have spent so much time listening and trying to play like others, and i know it is a waste of time! I have waffled on far too long and said far too much!!! Oh well, at least i dont pretend to be who i am not! Cheers Grant
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