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ToddK
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 RE: Responsibilities? (in reply to flyeogh)
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Yes, i think Cypress would make more sense environmentally.
I actually live right down the road from Paul Reed Smith Guitars.
Paul is cranking out electric guitars with Brazilian Rosewood, Necks, Headstocks,
and fingerboards, like their's a neverending supply of the stuff.
Its completely insane, and completely wrong as far as im concerned.
Using Brazilian for a Concert guitar, in wich it actually has in impact
on the sound, is one thing.
But chopping it up into electric guitar Headstocks and Necks?
That is completely cosmetic, and the material used for a headstock
etc.... has absolutely no impact on the sound.
So he's basically chopping great wood up for nothing. Its a huge waste.
He even has the nerve to make Brazilian truss rod covers!!!
Are u f'ing kidding me!?!?
Even worse, these guitars are so overpriced, 99 percent of them dont
make it in to the hands of players. They end up under some Lawyer's bed.
Or in a display case.
I honestly dont see how Paul can sleep at night.
TK
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Date Mar. 12 2005 13:29:26
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RE: Responsibilities? (in reply to Guest)
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On second thoughts, since a tree is a plant, why not make a guitar from a tree?
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Date Mar. 12 2005 16:54:37
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RE: Responsibilities? (in reply to Escribano)
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A suppler in Spain has just been prosecuted whilst claiming adherance to CITES.
In fact 2 major suppliers, Madinter of Madrid and Barber of Valencia, have been prosecuted after a lengthy investigation by the Guardia Civil.
They sold, at a ver high price, a lot more Palo Santo Brazil than they had a licence for. This wood is now protected and should only leave the country with appropriate papers. That is why a Palo Santo Rio guitar will cost a lot more, even if it does not sound any better.
Escribano is right: there is no reason why a guitar should not be made from environmentally friendly wood.
I remember when the only way to catch salmon was with fishing flies made from exotic feathers from birds which are now protected. Yet the few salmon which remain can still be caught on flies made from quite ordinary feathers or a few hairs cast from your pet dog.
Suerte
Sean
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Date Mar. 12 2005 21:59:09
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RE: Responsibilities? (in reply to flyeogh)
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Take a look at this site:
www.alliedlutherie.com
There are some articles regarding macassar ebony and Brazil rosewood. It seems to me that the Brazil they sell is absolutely OK to use. After a long discussion with myself, I bought some Brazil from them. It's very dry, stable and well cut. And I'm sure it'll sound very well.
Regarding the Brazil thing here in Spain, Maderas Barber got their wood back a short while ago. After being DNA tested it was said not to be Dalbhergia Nigra. They had sold it as Caviuna, so that was ok. Now what is not ok is all the builders and factories that have build with this wood and have sold it as Brazil rosewood.
Anders
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Date Mar. 13 2005 7:12:31
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RE: Responsibilities? (in reply to flyeogh)
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I basically use 3 types of wood for the backs and sides of a guitar: Cypress, Indian Rosewood, and Brazil Rosewood. I'm also a very environment oriented person, and I'm not in the mood for using material exploiting the planet earth
Of the three woodtypes, I think that the Brazil Rosewood I have is the wood making the smallest impact on the ecosystem. It's cut from trunks, which where left 25 - 40 years ago when the Brazil government banned the cutting of rosewood. So these trunks were left, and you have to remove them in order to replant, so I actually find that this Brazil rosewood is a kind of recycled wood, and if there's anything in the world that is environmently correct, that's recycling.
The Indian Rosewood they cut, is from plantations, so it should be OK.
Cypress.... Well, It's getting difficult to find good cypress because there are few big trees left, but it can be replanted, so it cannot be said to be in danger.
I have some Madagascar Rosewood, and I will use it, but that's probably the worst, because they are cutting down the whole Island more or less. I bought it before I knew this.
Besides, in order to make a good spanish guitar, you have to use rosewood for the bridge because of it's low damping, and I'm not going to build a guitar with a non - rosewood bridge.
Anders
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