Can someone please....

Costs are rising and times are tough.
Please consider a donation to keep this
place going.

Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.

You are logged in as Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >>Discussions >>General >>

Page: [1]

Message

<< Newer Topic Older Topic >>

CarloJuan

Posts: 169
Joined: Sep. 19 2010
From: Philippines

Can someone please....

....make or arrange a flamenco hierarchy (like a family tree) from the old masters to the transition of modern? That would be beneficial for all of us. It's sometimes so hard to keep track of all the great artists now. And it would be even harder in the future. Also, my knowledge is not that expansive so i ain't audacious enough to start making one...sorry

These are just some of the few that i know though

Ramon Montoya
Nino Ricardo
Manolo de Huelva
Sabicas
Diego del Gastor

....lol that's just about who i know in the oldies, wait i'll check at the back of Graf's book

Nuevo:

PDL
Tomatito, and El Tomate
Manolo Franco
Paco Cepero
Pedro Sierra
Vicente Amigo
Chicuelo
Gerardo Nunez
Vicente Amigo
Rafael Riqueni
Moraito
Pepe Habichuela

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 11:32:10

Doitsujin

Posts: 5078
Joined: Apr. 10 2005

RE: Can someone please.... (in reply to CarloJuan)

These family trees are nice to watch but nowadays outdated since flamenco got too divers. Where do you put all the artists who dont come from a "hyped" flamenco family? Are they waste?

See the flamenco as a whole.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 11:56:28

XXX

Posts: 4400
Joined: Apr. 14 2005

RE: Can someone please.... (in reply to CarloJuan)

Can you please....

... change the thread title?

Or is it...

... not possible?

I think that's...

... very funny!

_____________________________

Фламенко

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 12:05:58

mrMagenta

Posts: 942
Joined: Oct. 25 2006
From: Sweden

RE: Can someone please.... (in reply to Doitsujin)

Guitarists from families outside the flamenco circles are not waste. But having some family trees could be interesting if one studies the styles of these guitarists. It's also interesting to get a picture of how things have developed over the years.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 14:25:48

Ricardo

Posts: 14855
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Can someone please.... (in reply to CarloJuan)

Off top of my head:
Planeta (singer and guitarist)

Patiño-Juan Breva (singer and guitar)-Paco de lucena

Ramon Montoya-Javier Molina-Miguel Borrull-Manolo de Huelva-Juan "Habichuela" Gandula

Melchor de Marchena-Niño Ricardo-Sabicas-Diego del Gastor-/Pepe martinez-Esteban de sanlucar-Mario Escudero-Juan Serrano-Carlos Montoya etc (solo guitarists mainly working outside of spain, actually Sabicas too but he is more important influence)

Manuel Morao-Parrilla de jerez-Ramon de Algeciras-Juan and Pepe Habichuela

Paco Cepero-Paco de lucia-Manolo Sanlucar-Serranito-Niño Miguel-Pedro Bacan-Paco Peña

Tomatito-Moraito-Gerardo Nuñez-Rafael Riqueni-Manolo Franco-Niño de Pura

Vicente Amigo-Chicuelo-Diego del Morao-Viejin-Jesus de Rosario and the rest of Caño Roto guys.....Jeronimo Maya....so many good ones from this new generation...Antonio Rey.....

Interesting to note some things too such as Javier Molina is the first of Jerez school Rafael Aguila was the teacher of this style to Manuel Morao, Parrilla, Cepero, even Nuñez. So you can do a jerez line and other lines between generations like Molina-Morao-Moraito-diego del morao....etc.

Ricardo

_____________________________

CD's and transcriptions available here:
www.ricardomarlow.com

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 14:36:03

Andy Culpepper

Posts: 3023
Joined: Mar. 30 2009
From: NY, USA

RE: Can someone please.... (in reply to CarloJuan)

I don't know much about guitarists but I can give you a few by generation (not even close to complete):

Ramon Montoya
Miguel Borull
Javier Molina
........|.........
Niño Ricardo
Sabicas
Mario Escudero
Melchor de Marchena
Diego del Gastor
Esteban Sanlucar
Juan Habichuela
Manuel Morao
........|........
PDL
Tomatito
Vicente Amigo
Marote
Niño Miguel
Pepe Habichuela
Moraito
Riqueni
Gerardo Nuñez
Paco Peña
Manolo Franco
Paco Cepero
Manolo Sanlucar
Serranito
........|........
Chicuelo
Diego del Morao
Jesus de Rosario
Niño Josele
Jose Luis Monton
Miguel Angel Cortes
Paco Fernandez
El Viejin
Ramon Jimenez
Jeronimo Maya
Antonio Rey
Anton Jimenez
Jose Manuel Leon
Paquete

_____________________________

Andy Culpepper, luthier
http://www.andyculpepper.com

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 8 2011 14:52:55