RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique

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Ramon Amira

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RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to VietFlamenco)

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i think it's not length of post that's the issue, it's density of paragraph!

i think it's different to talking, you have to compensate for lack of tone of voice and gesture to help the flow and phrasing by breaking text up into bite size chunks and laying them out visually - or something like that.

Yes, agreed. It's density, and needs to be broken up into paragraphs. The funny part is that I'm a writer and I know that, and I always do exactly that for all my writing, but for some reason when I write a post I seem to just go on and on. And on . . . . .and on . . . . .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 23 2010 22:27:09

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to Ramon Amira)

i've never actually tried this myself. but i just thought of an idea after thinking about a_arnold's "increase difficulty" concept. let me know what you guys think.

let's take a run with straight 16th's for example. you would start right away up to speed.

1)first, you play only the notes that land on the beat. so, at this point, you're only playing quarter notes, skipping everything in between. easy enough.

2)then add the notes that are the &'s. fairly easy to play and feel.

3)then slow inject the e's and a's, one beat at a time. so at first, you're only doing a one beat burst of 16's at the beginning. you keep gradually adding the the rest of the notes until you get your full 1 compas 16th note run.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 2:09:11

Ramon Amira

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From: New York City

RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to Ramon Amira)

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1)first, you play only the notes that land on the beat. so, at this point, you're only playing quarter notes, skipping everything in between. easy enough.

2)then add the notes that are the &'s. fairly easy to play and feel.

3)then slow inject the e's and a's, one beat at a time. so at first, you're only doing a one beat burst of 16's at the beginning. you keep gradually adding the the rest of the notes until you get your full 1 compas 16th note run.

The only thing with that idea is that when initially playing quarters you have to remember to repeat the finger on the beat. Don't alternate I and M when playing quarters, as you might sort of automatically do. Also, I'm not sure that this is any different from doing the same thing one measure at a time in sequence. But I say try everything.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 18:28:31

Ramon Amira

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From: New York City

RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to VietFlamenco)

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was this the advice to start very simple and increase the complexity?

Yes. We went over this in another thread. Probably both approaches attack the same barrier from different sides.

I have never seen that thread where Carlos Ramos' advice was discussed. Could someone tell me how to find it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 18:40:50

mark indigo

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RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to Ramon Amira)

you should find it here;

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=107589&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=picado&tmode=&smode=&s=#107860

last post on page 1 of the thread called "My version of picado...wrong?"

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 23:04:23

Ramon Amira

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From: New York City

RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to Ramon Amira)

Thanks Mark - that's the one I was looking for.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 23:33:41

el prado

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RE: Left Hand Pinky Technique (in reply to VietFlamenco)

Sorry Vieteflamenco for my late reply. However, based on a very useful classical guitar booklet I studied many years ago, I think it was " The art of practicing the guitar" by Alice Artz, I can suggest the following:

First try to do each one of the six formulas on all strings. Watch and measure your fingers movements to see : 1. which two finger movements are the most difficult for you ( 3-4 or 2-4 or 1-4) ?
Then you can design your own personla exercise pattern:
--- Your pattern should begin with the 4th finger, as it is probably also weak at being first to be placed on a lower or higher string.
--- If for example you found the 3-4 combination most difficult to perform, you use this combination much more in your new pattern.
--- As an example, you may get the pattern in the picture, which can help your weakest finger movements.
I hope it can also help.
Regards,
El Prado de Sevilla