Guitarra de aluminio!!!

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M.S.A.

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Guitarra de aluminio!!!

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Exitao

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

I've seen this before, I assumed he was joking.

Listen again, a metal guitar would sound very different, I think, and if he did a golpe an an aluminium surface it would be really noticeable.

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Armando

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

Sounds like aluminium.

I prefere my wooden babies but i must admit, that the guitar sounds surprisingly well for a guitar made of such material.

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XXX

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

If you start guitar pro and then play something into the mic, this is more or less the effect that guitar pro adds to the sound. I accidentially found that out!

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Stephen Eden

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

Right time to get the tin foil out of the cuboard and into the workshop. Do you think I could french polish it or would I have to take it to an autopaint shop?

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Ricardo

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

We talked about this vid years ago. he says the guitar has hardly any weight to it, like aluminum. The idea being it is a lot of guitar for being so light weight. of course it is made of spruce and cypress man!

Gerardo w/ same guitar and you can see the cypress back through the hole.

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XXX

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

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ORIGINAL: M.S.A.

Hey Deniz, I believe you man, it might be just like you say, although it still doesn't mean this video shot is a fake.

LOL! I thought its clear... he makes compliments about his guitar, then he plays it. I guess they played around with some settings in audio software (or maybe they found out what i did with guitar pro) and somebody thought its a good joke to put it on youtube as aluminium guitar, since Anton was making jokes about it being light as aluminium.

I dont know if its possible to make aluminium guitars. But this guitar surely is just one of Gerardos Condes?

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Tom Blackshear

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

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ORIGINAL: M.S.A.

wtf... this is ridiculous - never heard of wood substitution by aluminium, but I have to admit, this one sounds really impressive... I am struck by that.

what do you think about it, luthiers??

cheers

It sounds like a poor recording of a wood guitar to me, even though it tries to correct itself through a sound system; just doesn't quite make it. It's not too metalic sounding but not an earthy sound either. It doesn't seem to cry out from the bowels of the earth. When you get a guitar to sound too even and non-human in its voicing, it fails to have much meaning or soul. If all a player wants is a machine that makes noise and is musically stable in its presentation through a sound system, then fine..........But, to me, it takes too much away from what this player tries to express from a traditional stand-point.

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XXX

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

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it IS NOT ONE OF GERARDO'S CONDES.

Because?

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

it's got braces on the back, inside it. it is made of wood.

the recording is basically a guitar that is slightly out of phase with itself in stereo, or two incredibly close recordings left and right. this is probably a youtube problem having to do with down sampling audio quality to a poorer mp3 format giving it that chirpy hollow sound.

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

The Hindenburg Zeppelin had an aluminum piano on board. So why not an aluminum guitar? There's model of cello out now made completely of carbon fiber and if you heard a recording of it and did not know it was carbon fiber you would assume it was wood.

The Earth is pissed off at us and the trees might go away, but then we will be gone too. So that means no more Conde's. Hip hip hooray!

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio!!! (in reply to M.S.A.)

No it's definitely made of wood. We talked about this before and someone mentioned the guitar was made by this Serbian luthier:

http://www.sabmarguitars.com/

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Arash

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Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's ind... (in reply to M.S.A.)

just found this vid.
even though he also plays with the "i" finger, in this vid it looks like it is omehow hurt. r am i hallucinating?

btw, i think this is the ALUMINIUM Guitar again:

it seams to be a Sabljic guitar

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XXX

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's... (in reply to Arash)

Seems his injury didnt heal coz some weeks ago i saw him in concert, palying only rasgs with index. No picado and almost no arps with index. He did his best to replace with other fingers, but it wasnt what i had expected, which was none less the best solo performance i would have ever seen.

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Arash

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's... (in reply to XXX)

sh!t. hope it will heal soon.
this is the worse which can happen to a guitarist.

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Elie

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's... (in reply to Arash)

quote:

this is the worse which can happen to a guitarist.

so true

I hope he get better soon

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Arash

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's... (in reply to XXX)

here is another new vid from 2010.
same here. the index finger is rarely used

here with the Conde - Model Aluminium -

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Ricardo

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RE: Guitarra de aluminio - Gerardo's... (in reply to Arash)

Injury happened 2 years ago. His only description to us is "car accident". Not sure what has happened. He played nothing for 3 months. Then got back into but was very depressed. He almost quit playing. After the courso in 2008 he said he felt stronger but not the same. One year later it was clear, and scary to us, his injury is till there. It must be permanent. Perhaps it has gotten worse because he simply avoids arps now, where as 2 years ago he did do some arps but obviously with some difficulty.

Good thing is he does not show in his manner or face that it is a problem. On the surface he seems to still enjoy playing. His concerts are no longer guitar solo, he always performs to accomp. singer and dancer. I am sure he is disturbed but at least he is not afraid to go out and play the best he can.

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