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RE: Paco De Lucia using Lester Devoe
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buleria74
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RE: Paco De Lucia using Lester Devoe (in reply to Grisha)
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Paco is a great musician with excellent ear and impeccable technique. He also has many chances to sample the best guitars (and take them home, if he likes). That's why he is performing and recording on Conde and DeVoe. Both are great guitars, very different from each other, both have individual strengths. Which one is superior? It's apples and oranges. I just know that if I had a chance to buy a Conde, I would, but if it meant trading in my DeVoe for that Conde, I would not do it. My DeVoe is a perfect match for what I want to express right now, and this guitar taught me a lot of subtle nuances that my playing was lacking lately (due to muscle strains in my hands). I absolutely love the sound I get from this new guitar, and only wonder how it will sound in a little while. Perhaps, my demands will change one day, but I don't see it happening soon, and I will not part with this DeVoe in any case. Dear Grisha, many thanks for your post, I appreciate it.
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Date Feb. 25 2010 10:45:08
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buleria74
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RE: Paco De Lucia using Lester Devoe (in reply to orsonw)
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I notice that Paco does have a different aire than he used to, there's a softness sometimes, a different dynamic. In this video you can see he still has power when he wants though he doesn't play full on all the way through like he used to. Maybe rather than old age or loss of technique he is simply choosing to play like this? I wonder who he is influenced by, perhaps he heard a younger player like Diego del Morao and was inspired by that looser, laid back feeling? Any thoughts? I remember from an interview they made couple of years ago, Maestro Paco said : con la edad se pierde un poco la tecnica pero tocando mas agusto. well, this tells you pretty much everything. if he is influenced I have no idea. but definitely he has changed abit, also the discussion about Lester Devoe guitars, maybe those guitars are slightly closer to his current taste. I don't believe he will give up his earlier instruments but something is changing, that's for sure.
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Date Feb. 27 2010 0:55:41
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Ricardo
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RE: Paco De Lucia using Lester Devoe (in reply to buleria74)
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ORIGINAL: buleria74 quote:
Paco has been playing with that kind of sometimes less aggressive groove that I think you are getting at some of the times for many years first time he played slightly more laid back was cositas buenas, so I can't agree with you that he did that 1996, absolutely not, you should watch more stuff from Paco to understand it. As I wrote earlier, Maestro Paco did mention himself about this after cositas buenas concerts. A lot of what is going on is simply the dynamics of the recording and live sound. Paco had just as light a touch when younger, but the recordings are more "in your face" and all guitar back then. I saw him live right after Cositas and he was really ballsy and kick butt and aggressive, and a lot had to do with the live sound, it was very "in your face". Then I saw the DVD of the same show live in germany, and he not only made tons of errors, but the sound was not so much "in your face" as what I saw live. It is the miking techniques and mix, and compression of the master affects this too, I can see why someone would feel it is his overall playing style, but it was not really IMO. The bulerias on Cositas, coincidentally he recorded with the Devoe, seems to have a light touch because of the nature of the music, and I suspect was recorded differently then say the opening bulerias, which is more ballsy. "Volar" it is called has a lot of melodies, but when the rasgueados come in he is ripping as normal. As a comparison, listen to Castro Marin and compare the same music to Solo Quiero caminar. Why does it sound so different? Same guy, same guitar, same music....but very different recording techniques. Anyway you can see him working on some of those Volar falsetas at his home in mexico from the DVD Francisco sanchez, and he is just playing pretty normally on his red finish conde in front of his lap top. He is literally laid back playing at home, and that is probably how he recorded that music. But then he cuts his beard and hits the road for a tour and you see how his playing on stage takes on a new intensity. Ricardo
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Date Feb. 27 2010 6:19:53
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Ruphus
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RE: Paco De Lucia using Lester Devoe (in reply to mht2)
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Nothing like reanimating a dusty old thread. Saludos afficionados, For months now, in anticipation of an instrument, meanwhile knibbling on fingernails so to say, I have been doing quick searches every other time, only to see what people might be saying on the maker in question / his builts. Which is how I stumbled over this thread and logged in. What Paco´s liking of DeVoes is concerned, in the meantime Johannes mentions on his site that he and Lester went to Spain where Paco selected another of Lester´s. ( A blanca this time. Guess his first DeVoe to be a negra.) I have been interested in a DeVoe before and had contacted Lester for a little conversation already, thinking of ordering one of his sometime in the far future. However later, after reading a rave from Johannes my interest got enhanced, and when a while afterwards Tom Blackshear praised a DeVoe flamenca negra he had tried out on the GFA as possibly even Lester´s best, I just couldn´t withstand and bought it. BTW, Grisha, should it indeed be you who contributes on this forum, and you still onboard: The guitar I´m about is the same specimen that you played on the GFA ( I saw that video ). As it will still be taking another couple of weeks until the guitar shall arrive at my place, a little post about your personal impression on the indivual characteristics of this instrument meanwhile would certainly be an entertaining read for me. Also, as a great admirer of your technique, which to my understanding appears to be quite ergonomical and efficient ( I fancy it as the "snapping springs" that I am aiming for - in my daydreams at least ), I am surprised to hear of strains in your right hand. Ever since interested in physiology and efficient handling I would appreciate to hear some details about the problem you experience/d, if you care to kindly share. Best, Ruphus PS: Just searched the forum and found the post on your hand problem, Grisha, so never mind my question on that. Definitly glad to read that you completely recovered from the irritation! :O) ( And having just read now in the GSI-videos thread in detail on your appreciation of your DeVoe - despite yet of the to me extremely appealing Perez you tried at GSI - yet boosted my expectations some more. With still, roughly two drooling weeks left for me until own empirics. :O)
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